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  • #41
    Pure fantasy thinking Ortiz and wilder are going to fight ,at least before Joshua fights Ortiz and wins by k.o anyway. The ones left standing are either Wlad/ Joshua/Parker and Haye by the time he lines himself up for those fights. Wilder will try and cruise to that Joshua fight without danger,this should be obvious.

    I foresee he fights another lower ranker after this fight (however that is ) and MAY go for Miller who is another threat just a lesser one. He HAS to fight at least someone seen as decent and relevant( he hasn't defended with anyone of note) to sell himself IF he should make it to Wlad or Joshua (those are the top two guys )

    I think he will stay far away from Ortiz and Haye and stretch 2017 out to get by fights he knows hes heavily favored. I think he also views guys like Parker and Whyte to much risk i doubt he fights them too but hope im wrong. i know everyone is limited to how many fights a year happens so....im guessing Washington/Breazeale and Pulev are his safe bets to still be less critisized and avoid the more dangerous guys to fill in 2017.

    I dont really care he had his chance to fight Wlad and declined or totally scheduled around him a few years ago and has dragged his feet with or without matches not happening,at this point i just want to see Joshua or wlad vs Wilder anyway,because both k.o him.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by kafkod View Post
      The point is that Wach was banned for using PEDs while training to fight Wlad.
      The point is that the bozo I responded to likes to build up fighters when they fight his favorites than slam them when a fighter he doesn't like fights them. I understand the whole PED angle here, but let's not pick and choose who we're going to admonish for cheating, they way Freedom claims Povetkin was set up. Its ridiculous.

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      • #43
        Make Wilder-Washington. Two undefeated guys. Wilder can pop him like he did Kelvin Price. Fun will be had by all.

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        • #44
          toothpick joke Wilder only wants easy fights against bums

          Wilder only wants easy fights against bums to keep his fake title belt. Wilder is no champion and no one knows who the hell this black stick is in America. Goofy Wilder couldn't beat david Haye or Hughie Fury.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
            Pure fantasy thinking Ortiz and wilder are going to fight ,at least before Joshua fights Ortiz and wins by k.o anyway. The ones left standing are either Wlad/ Joshua/Parker and Haye by the time he lines himself up for those fights. Wilder will try and cruise to that Joshua fight without danger,this should be obvious.

            I foresee he fights another lower ranker after this fight (however that is ) and MAY go for Miller who is another threat just a lesser one. He HAS to fight at least someone seen as decent and relevant( he hasn't defended with anyone of note) to sell himself IF he should make it to Wlad or Joshua (those are the top two guys )

            I think he will stay far away from Ortiz and Haye and stretch 2017 out to get by fights he knows hes heavily favored. I think he also views guys like Parker and Whyte to much risk i doubt he fights them too but hope im wrong. i know everyone is limited to how many fights a year happens so....im guessing Washington/Breazeale and Pulev are his safe bets to still be less critisized and avoid the more dangerous guys to fill in 2017.

            I dont really care he had his chance to fight Wlad and declined or totally scheduled around him a few years ago and has dragged his feet with or without matches not happening,at this point i just want to see Joshua or wlad vs Wilder anyway,because both k.o him.
            You'll be disappointed when the opposite happens.

            Wilders moves too well...is too fast...and throws too many combinations for those plodding dinosaurs.

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            • #46
              That also rules out redneck Tyson Fury and his cousin as well. Interesting to see when UKAD takes action against these two PED cheaters.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Kigali View Post
                You'll be disappointed when the opposite happens.

                Wilders moves too well...is too fast...and throws too many combinations for those plodding dinosaurs.
                I wont be dissapointed because ive been following boxing more than year and know the differance in skill levels in all fighters .lmao

                i WILL be dissapointed if Breazeale or Whyte potential opponents defeat him however which is 50/50 bc i want to see the hype fight many THINK Wilder is going to bring to Joshua to cause this upset.That is a mugging if i ever saw one in the making.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by BrometheusBob. View Post
                  I wouldn't fight a guy who has tested positive before on short notice either if I were Wilder.
                  Funny your the only person who noticed Debella said "on one month notice"...

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Freedom. View Post
                    Yet they are considering Mariusz Wach.

                    Truth is, Ortiz presents a risk and Wilder does not take risks.
                    Wach, Durodola Cleared of Doping Allegations By The WBC - http://www.boxingscene.com/wach-duro....n8wgMV6s.dpuf


                    Talking out of your ass again

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                    • #50
                      The right move, even if it it's unpopular.

                      Ortiz is not enrolled in VADA and has tested positive before. It would be naive to take the fight on one month's notice when he could just cycle off.

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