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  • moy22487
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    #51
    Originally posted by ferocity
    LOL!

    if you want to start making excuse then lets get the facts straight, vargas was to face the judege the following monday after his win over winky and not to mention he also had family problems, oh, and was what 21, 22 years old, and how about winky? winky already had im i think it was over at least over 7 years in boxing compared to vargas what 3 years. if winky was so good, and so talented why did it take a figher like vargas to give him a title shot to see that he was that good?

    didn't people see it in his first fight with bronco mckart?
    its like you making excusses for tito not looking good againts winky.
    Even after that fight he still wasnt known. you cant blame winky for vargas problems, and he should not be given any pitty for what happens to him in his life out side of the ring

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      #52
      Taylor is a class act, has two big wins on his resume, is fighting the best, and is a relativily exciting fighter to watch.
      How can you not like him?
      I think he could be the new face of the MW division.

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        #53
        Originally posted by PBF34
        Taylor is a class act, has two big wins on his resume, is fighting the best, and is a relativily exciting fighter to watch.
        How can you not like him?
        I think he could be the new face of the MW division.
        edison miranda is the future. if he can get some d

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          #54
          Originally posted by moy22487
          edison miranda is the future. if he can get some d
          Miranda vs Taylor and Wright is a complete mismatch.

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            #55
            Originally posted by PBF34
            Miranda vs Taylor and Wright is a complete mismatch.
            i see winky beating them both.
            but Miranda Taylor would be a great fight non-stops action.

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              #56
              Originally posted by fabzmm
              What has he done so convincingly to warrant this hype around him? Yea he beat a legend in hopkins, but the man is 40 years old. What gets me is that he didn't do it convincingly. Nothing he has impressed me at all. Overated, and will be exposed vs Winky (most underated boxer ever) Discuss.
              You have it wrong. The nut-hugging belong to Winky or Hopkins on this site. Most people hate Taylor on this site.

              The 40 years old Hopkins, mind you he was the P4P #1 guy in boxing when Taylor beat him. So that just don't work.

              Winky is great boxer, but boring as hell, he puts me to sleep every time. Taylor is bigger, stronger & a better jab. Taylor will be too much for Winky.

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                #57
                Originally posted by ferocity
                tell me you're joking? I see taylor as a bigger version of vargas and vargas fought winky on his off night with both legal and family problems and still pulled off the win.

                taylor also may have more power then vargas and he has a jab and a strong over-hand right. taylor is smart enough to know that if winky wants to jab, then taylor will jab with him and take his jab.

                i think taylor is a bit of a counter puncher and doesn't mind leading or countering a figher, he can be pattient when he wants to and making this fight easier will be winky coming straight at him, lol, and to top it off, jermain taylor has in my opinion one of the best corner people in the bussniess, taylors trainer gives great advice to taylor and taylor listens, every which way i look at this fight i still end up with taylor beating winky, and this ain't only because i dislike winky but all you have to do is look at winkys resume and how he fought those fighters and where those fightes were in their career.
                Lol, I agree with everything you say about Taylor.

                Run, Vargas does not hit harder then Taylor as an middleweight, you gotta be kidding.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by moy22487
                  i see winky beating them both.
                  but Miranda Taylor would be a great fight non-stops action.
                  Taylors jab would keep miranda at bay all day long. Taylor also has good power, and i think mirandas chin is a bit suspect.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by PBF34
                    Taylors jab would keep miranda at bay all day long. Taylor also has good power, and i think mirandas chin is a bit suspect.
                    i agree 100% miranda got rocked by howard eastman and eastman aint got power. thats why i think it would be a good fight after miranda works on his D

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                      #60
                      I'm not sure that Winky can beat him

                      Originally posted by fabzmm
                      What has he done so convincingly to warrant this hype around him? Yea he beat a legend in hopkins, but the man is 40 years old. What gets me is that he didn't do it convincingly. Nothing he has impressed me at all. Overated, and will be exposed vs Winky (most underated boxer ever) Discuss.
                      I'm not sure that Winky can beat him but for sure Jermain Taylor is not a complete fighter, lacking inside fighting skills, particularly on defence. Now that he's being trained by Emanuel Steward it will probably get worse, unfortunately. Taylor is the typical tall, athletic, fast and strong boxer that Steward has often trained over the years (Gerald McLellan, Lennox Lewis, Wladimir Klitschko, Thomas Hearns, Milt McCrory, Hilmer Kenty being others off the top of my head), and from what I remember, in every case except McLellan he trained those men to tie up inside rather than cover up or trade. McLellan was a crushing puncher, so there was no reason for him to avoid infighting. Hearns was a real warrior and hated holding, but it cost him against Barkley, Hagler and Leonard (1st fight). Maybe Steward learned to teach guys the "fine art" of clinching partially because of the debacles of Hearns.

                      In any case, Winky Wright is basically a boxer, quite content to trade jabs from the outside. He can stalk his opponents too but it's not usually his 1st choice strategically. Because of how their styles match up I think that Taylor can win the outside battle of jabs and straight right hands. Taylor's younger, taller, at least as fast and strong enough to keep Wright off of him for most of the fight. Wright's defence is excellent though and should keep him in the fight all the way.

                      If Taylor is to be beaten it will most likely be by a strong, young and quick pressure fighter, maybe somebody like Arthur Abraham. [It's possible that Edison Miranda has what it takes to beat Taylor too but his balance problems make me uncomfortable]. However, the referee is likely to have some influence on how such a fight goes. If a referee is chosen that tolerates a lot of holding on the inside, Taylor could still win a frustrating and boring battle against a guy like Abraham, with 10-15 clinches per round all broken up by an overworked referee. We will have to wait and see. First let's see what happens with Wright-Taylor. I have to hold my nose and go with Taylor by unanimous decision.
                      Last edited by mokele; 05-17-2006, 05:02 AM. Reason: fix grammar

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