Comments Thread For: Pacquiao: In The Eyes of The People - I Beat Floyd Mayweather

[ADP02]

theres at least 2 people who would pay to see may pac II

(pssst....is this still about may losing his 0 ?)

Summary:
For 5+ years Floyd and his fans said this:
"NO WAY! Giving <1 tbsp of blood 5 or 6 times will not affect Manny's training/fight.


May 1st, 2015:
Giving < 1 tbsp of blood contributed to me, Floyd, being so drained that I needed an IV, which is a banned method!

Pssst ..... Floyd fans, do you agree with Floyd's BS?

[travestyny]

I explained it clearly enough so that a 10 year old should understand it. SMRTL did the same in the Diaz case. SMRTL was NOT required to do a confirmation test. Just like I pointed out, WADA does NOT require LABs to do a confirmation test if the SCREENING comes back negative.

IF SMRTL came back with a positive result, then YES, a confirmation test is mandatory.

Marijuana has a threshold limit. If its below the limit, guess what? It's reported as negative and testing stops!!! SMRTL does not perform, as they said, rigorous tests if initial screening comes back negative.

SMRTL: "No because its a threshold substance if it does not meet that threshold, there is no point to do a confirmation analysis and report it as negative."


But I'm sure what I said is no use. You will not get it AGAIN!!!



"Thus, a two-step test strategy involving immunoassay (IA) and gas chromatography-mass spectrometry (GC-MS) methodo-logies are now mandated protocols for testing regulated specimens.

With this approach, a large number of speci-mens are effectively screened (preliminarily tested) by IA; those screened positive are further confirmed for the presence of the targeted analyte(s) by GC-MS"


KABOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!





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Lmao. You idiot. Immunoassay is not used by WADA labs for screening.

And you are still misquoting the video. You are an utter moron.

Go look at the video where Eixhner clearly says immunoassay is not used, and the confirmation should be consistent with Quest's. Lmao!!!

[travestyny]

SMRTL: They did a SCREENING test too. It came back negative!!! So they did not do their confirmation test!

You said that the SCREENING doesn't matter and is worth Sh$t. So since SCREENING test is all that SMRTL did then its worth Sh$t, right?

So basically since the substance didn't go over the threshold, SMRTL only did a SCREENING not a confirmation test.

SMRTL's testing being just a screening test with "no additional confirmation test" done

Secondly, the SMRTL test was just 1 test plus it was just a screening test.

SMRTL did just a screening test by way of GC/MS.

SMRTL:
SCREENING TEST - negative but found 50-60 ng/ml in diluted urine samples.
CONFIRMATION TEST - NOT DONE

With Diaz, they had a SCREENING process and the results came back negative so there was no CONFIRMATION process.

SMRTL didn't do a confirmation test.

You are all confused. What they did was get the quantitative value on the initially screened sample not the confirmation sample, which there was none!!!!

You are mixing up getting a quatitative value of the screened urine sample vs confirmation test that would be done on a completely different urine sample!!!

LMAOOOO. THAT LAST QUOTATION IS PARTICULARLY FUNNY. THEY USE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT URINE SAMPLE FOR THE CONFIRMATION???? NO, YOU MORON. THEY USE THE SAME A CUP SAMPLE! STOP TALKING ABOUT SHlT YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT.

How about Eichner from SMRTL during the proceeding (saying that the results at Diaz trial should be consistent FOR THE CONFIRMATION):

“The mass spectometry data that we do for the confirmation should definitely be consistent with other regulated programs like Quest.”

DR. EICHNER TELLING YOUR DUMB ASS THAT THE SCREEN CHECKS FOR ALL PROHIBITED SUBSTANCES, AND THE CONFIRMATION CHECKS FOR A SINGLE METABOLITE:

Daniel Eichner, a Ph.D. who is the executive director of SMRTL said there is a lack of understanding of how testing procedures work.
"If anything is detected during the initial SCREEN, that triggers MORE WORK."

"If we see anything that could look remotely like a prohibited substance, we then go back to that urine sample in the A bottle and then we do a CONFIRMATION process,"

Eichner said. "We look specifically for that compound of the parent drug or the metabolite."

AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF CLINICAL CHEMISTRY ARTICLE TELLING YOU THAT THE SCREEN CHECKS FOR ALL PROHIBITED SUBSTANCES, AND THE CONFIRMATION SEARCHES FOR INDIVIDUAL COMPOUNDS OR INDIVIDUAL METABOLITES. Trifluoroacetyl IS THE INDIVIDUAL COMPOUND THAT IS SEACHED FOR TO CONFIRM AMPHETAMINE:

Interfering peaks and background noise can complicate GC-MS data reading because screening methods are designed to detect entire classes of compounds and are not optimized for individual compounds.

For confirmation testing an additional aliquot of urine from the 'A' bottle would be analyzed separately using a testing method optimized to detect amphetamine. Ion chromatograms and mass spectra of the trifluoroacetyl derivative of amphetamine are shown in Figure 3.

So what’s that bltch? The Screen does what? It is NOT OPTIMIZED TO SEARCH FOR INDIVIDUAL COMPOUNDS.

The confirmation SEARCHES SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT COMPOUND OF THE PARENT DRUG OR THE METABOLITE.

WE KNOW THE CONFIRMATION WAS DONE...BECAUSE THE SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF THE INDIVIDUAL MARIJUANA METABOLITE 9-carboxy-THC IS PROVIDED!

GO LOOK AT ALL OF YOUR WRONG QUOTATIONS ABOVE AND CRY, BlTCH. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

LMAOOOOOOO. OWNED. TIME FOR YOU TO GIVE UP, BlTCH. DON'T EVEN POST ANYMORE ON THIS TOPIC. LOG OUT!!!!

ps. KABOOM!

[ADP02]

Lmao. You idiot. Immunoassay is not used by WADA labs for screening.

And you are still misquoting the video. You are an utter moron.

Go look at the video where Eixhner clearly says immunoassay is not used, and the confirmation should be consistent with Quest's. Lmao!!!

Trying to make it simple so that you too can understand ....

I WAS WRONG .... you cannot understand!

Screening is then followed by confirmation testing on positive results. That is the whole point of screening. Find the positive tests then do more analysis .... not on the negative results!!! That would be dumb and time consuming ..... as SMRTL said to you, "NO POINT"

[Bjl12]

Summary:
For 5+ years Floyd and his fans said this:
"NO WAY! Giving <1 tbsp of blood 5 or 6 times will not affect Manny's training/fight.

Correction: Manny and his fans said it would weaken him. Floyd never said anything like that. And it was Manny who needed a cutoff date

May 1st, 2015:
Giving < 1 tbsp of blood contributed to me, Floyd, being so drained that I needed an IV, which is a banned method!

You don't understand "dehydration obviously, but whose fault is it that Floyd needed an IV to rehydrate? Manny's fault. Manny wanted to wait until Floyd got old and that's why Floyd needed IV fluid hydration.

Had Manny not been such a ***** and signed the contract in 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, until finally in 2015...he might've had a better chance :/

But he was afraid of needles, giving blood weakened him, needed a cutoff date from OSDT, and needed an outdoor stadium to be built for the fight to happen. That's the Pooch you cherish !

[ADP02]

LMAOOOO. THAT LAST QUOTATION IS PARTICULARLY FUNNY. THEY USE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT URINE SAMPLE FOR THE CONFIRMATION???? NO, YOU MORON. THEY USE THE SAME A CUP SAMPLE! STOP TALKING ABOUT SHlT YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT.








So what’s that bltch? The Screen does what? It is NOT OPTIMIZED TO SEARCH FOR INDIVIDUAL COMPOUNDS.

The confirmation SEARCHES SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT COMPOUND OF THE PARENT DRUG OR THE METABOLITE.

WE KNOW THE CONFIRMATION WAS DONE...BECAUSE THE SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF THE INDIVIDUAL MARIJUANA METABOLITE 9-carboxy-THC IS PROVIDED!

GO LOOK AT ALL OF YOUR WRONG QUOTATIONS ABOVE AND CRY, BlTCH. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

LMAOOOOOOO. OWNED. TIME FOR YOU TO GIVE UP, BlTCH. DON'T EVEN POST ANYMORE ON THIS TOPIC. LOG OUT!!!!

ps. KABOOM!

Make it simpleR ...

aliquot "a portion of a larger whole, especially a sample taken for chemical analysis or other treatment"


SCREENING takes an aliquot. If the SCREENING results finds a positive result on any substances, those then require a confirmation. Another aliquot is used for that test.

If the SCREENING comes back negative then there is no point in doing a confirmation! Even SMRTL is telling you that!!! Yet, you are out on left field!

SMRTL: "No because its a threshold substance if it does not meet that threshold, there is no point to do a confirmation analysis and report it as negative. "


What they did is get the concentration levels on the aliquot used during the initial screening! This can be achieved when one uses a GC/MS. GC/MS would contain all the substances found for the test and the information found for each substance can be used to calculate the concentration levels.

[IR0NFIST]

ADPO and travesty are still going at? I swear those two are locked in an endless conflict that will stretch on to the far reaches of time.

[ADP02]

Correction: Manny and his fans said it would weaken him. Floyd never said anything like that. And it was Manny who needed a cutoff date



You don't understand "dehydration obviously, but whose fault is it that Floyd needed an IV to rehydrate? Manny's fault. Manny wanted to wait until Floyd got old and that's why Floyd needed IV fluid hydration.

Had Manny not been such a ***** and signed the contract in 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, until finally in 2015...he might've had a better chance :/

But he was afraid of needles, giving blood weakened him, needed a cutoff date from OSDT, and needed an outdoor stadium to be built for the fight to happen. That's the Pooch you cherish !

Cut to the chase.

Do you believe Floyd's BS that giving <1 tbsp of blood 10 days before severely dehydrated? Oh yeah, he also said giving urine dehydrated him? You believe that? He admitted to making weight easily and being it was weigh-in, Floyd also admitted that all he was doing the day before was "a bit of exercise to stay sharp"



Crickets from Floyd fans then comes the deflections!

[ADP02]

ADPO and travesty are still going at? I swear those two are locked in an endless conflict that will stretch on to the far reaches of time.

Summary: Travestyny is on deflection mode.

Even the head of WADA TUE Committee said this about Floyd/USADA:
"I TOTALLY AGREE. It doesn't smell right to me"
"RETRO TUE are only for URGENT cases"
"USADA is supposed to be a body that is supposed to be completely independant." but is not!!!
"Wow, its a murky world. Yes it is a murky world."

"That is when I challenge the system. Its a red flag."

30:50 mark
https://soundcloud.com/offtheball/wa...use-abuse-tues



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[travestyny]

Make it simpleR ...

aliquot "a portion of a larger whole, especially a sample taken for chemical analysis or other treatment"


SCREENING takes an aliquot. If the SCREENING results finds a positive result on any substances, those then require a confirmation. Another aliquot is used for that test.

If the SCREENING comes back negative then there is no point in doing a confirmation! Even SMRTL is telling you that!!! Yet, you are out on left field!

SMRTL: "No because its a threshold substance if it does not meet that threshold, there is no point to do a confirmation analysis and report it as negative. "


What they did is get the concentration levels on the aliquot used during the initial screening! This can be achieved when one uses a GC/MS. GC/MS would contain all the substances found for the test and the information found for each substance can be used to calculate the concentration levels.

How many times can you get this wrong idiot. No point in doing a confirmation analysis ON THERE. Stop giving false quotations.

Also, it clearly states that the screening does not check for individual compounds. But you still can't understand.
How the **** did WADA give the amount of the individual compound if a confirmation wasn't done, moron?

Eichner told you how it works, but you still can't understand.

You finally ready to step up? Let's make a thread or thunderdome about it. Ready? I bet you bltch out because you know you are wrong you false quotation giving bastard.