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  • club fighter
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    #51
    Originally posted by nubianpiye
    I don't need to quote a source this isn't an essay or
    Something that's really debated by boxing fans it's generally accepted by anyone who knows how to score a fight it's like me describing how to throw a jab its basic knowledge to anyone who knows boxing it should
    In fact he described in the same way by everyone who knows what they are talking about. Moving on from this why not discuss the topic instead of trying to play private investigator when there is nothing to investigate.
    I am discussing the topic, from what I got out of your post and what you're replying with is that YOU know how to score a bout and everybody else outside of the article you copied doesn't know doodoo. You may not have meant it that way but that's how it comes off.

    I'm a "proof is in the pudding" / "the numbers don't lie" kind of person, so when so many people are disgruntled by the decision results in pro boxing that CANNOT BE DISMISSED by parroting someone else's words or talking down at people.

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    • Shape up
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      #52
      When we talk about damage, we talk about being stunned, staggered from a punch, not facial damage, if you look at Chavez snr, you could hit him with anything and he wouldn't mark up, some fighter mark up very easily, cut up every fight, everything comes back to clean shots, punches you don't see coming usually hurt the most, you can't prepare for those and they don't have to be hard to rock you

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      • b Murphington
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        #53
        When I'm watching a fight, I ask myself at the end of the round, who would I rather be? When I come up with my answer, that's who won the round.

        A lot of it has to do with who did the most damage. I'm not talking about facial damage, because some fighters bleed easier than others from scarred tissues or just the way their skin is, it cuts or bruises easier. But it's a question of who hurt who that round.

        If there is a round where a fighter was significantly hurt, but didn't go down, 9 times out of 10 I'm going to say he lost that round. So theoretically, fighter A could've thrown 70 punches and landed 30, but didn't hurt fighter B or really seemed to affect him, while fighter B could've thrown 30 and landed 10, but rocked fighter A pretty bad. In that situation fighter B won that round for me, even though fighter A outlanded him 30 to 10.

        Damaging punches to me are going to weight much heavier than the number of punches landed.

        The power of a punch does come into play. A fighter like Malignaggi is at a clear disadvantage from the get go. That's why his boxing skill needs to be on point to win.

        In a close round with a lot of back and forth action one punch could really make the difference. If its dead even with 1 second left in the round and one of the fighters lands just one big enough punch, that just took the round for me.

        If there's a round where not a lot of action happened, whoever landed the best punch in that round won it.

        I feel like we need to use 10 - 8 rounds more often that we do. If a fighter is clearly dominated, but didn't go down, it should be a 10 - 8 round. The scorecards need to reflect that. Keep close and competitive rounds 10 - 9, but dominated rounds 10 - 8. IMO, a fight where one fighter clearly dominated the 5 rounds he won, and the other fighter barely did enough to win 7, the fighter who won his 5 should win the fight, because the rounds he won should be weighted differently.
        Last edited by b Murphington; 01-18-2017, 06:41 PM.

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        • b Murphington
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          #54
          This is still all subjective in nature. Also remember that judges don't always have the best view. Judge A B and C are all watching the same fight from different points of view. That explains how they can come up with all the different scorecards.

          If you really want to eliminate all the decisions and 'robberies' you need to go back to the old school days.

          You fight until someone either quits, gets KOed, or dies.

          Theres no more argument on who won the fight.

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          • nubianpiye
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            #55
            Originally posted by club fighter
            I am discussing the topic, from what I got out of your post and what you're replying with is that YOU know how to score a bout and everybody else outside of the article you copied doesn't know doodoo. You may not have meant it that way but that's how it comes off.

            I'm a "proof is in the pudding" / "the numbers don't lie" kind of person, so when so many people are disgruntled by the decision results in pro boxing that CANNOT BE DISMISSED by parroting someone else's words or talking down at people.
            If you disagree highlight another way that fights are scored? You won't respond because you are nothing but a troll.

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            • _Maxi
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              #56
              Originally posted by StudentOfDaGame
              Good post, a lot of posters are emotionally invested in a fighter or agenda so they over exaggerate or downplay another fighter. Whatever suits the narrative of the day.
              Like Ward fans admitting he lost to Kovalev? ups. (look at my sig)

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              • nubianpiye
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                #57
                Originally posted by _Maxi
                Like Ward fans admitting he lost to Kovalev? ups. (look at my sig)
                I don't think he lost it was a good fight though was it close than floyd Castillo in your opinion?

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                • Elroy The Great
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                  #58

                  .......workrate

                  when its sloppy AF.

                  if youre missing 10 to land 1, gtfoh
                  effective aggression is where its at.

                  -1 pt PER kd/standing 8. 5 kds/S8s = -5 pts.

                  the problem with some judges is theyre partial to certain styles. just because a guy is forcing the fight doesnt mean they are landing clean punches. some judges dgaf. swinging is scoring. nothing can be done about that.

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                  • nubianpiye
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by SemiGreat

                    .......workrate

                    when its sloppy AF.

                    if youre missing 10 to land 1, gtfoh
                    effective aggression is where its at.

                    -1 pt PER kd/standing 8. 5 kds/S8s = -5 pts.

                    the problem with some judges is theyre partial to certain styles. just because a guy is forcing the fight doesnt mean they are landing clean punches. some judges dgaf. swinging is scoring. nothing can be done about that.
                    Good post agree people mistake aggression for effective aggression

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                    • Elroy The Great
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by nubianpiye
                      Good post agree people mistake aggression for effective aggression
                      it comes off looking prehistoric and desperate when guys throw punches just to throw them.

                      throwing 40 and landing 30 > throwing 100 and landing 30. -70 is beautiful defense.

                      i crack up when commentators say ''what a combo !'' when they all landed on the guys gloves and arms (see dana vs may).

                      also, about kd/S8s.....they can be even rds if the guys gets up and wins the rest of the rd. 1 clean shot shouldnt be an auto 10-8.

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