How to score a fight

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • nubianpiye
    John Snow dies
    • Jul 2014
    • 2264
    • 200
    • 230
    • 38,432

    #1

    How to score a fight

    A lot of people don't know how to score a fight properly this is becoming abundantly clear with the amount of close fights we've had recently and how people have been referring to damage done to a fighters face and punches landed according to compubox.

    Both of these factors matter but are not determining factors in scoring a fight, I even read a post recently where someone claimed that defence doesn't count? it's a joke

    A forum filled with hardcore boxing fans and no one knows how to score a fight? Damage inflicted is not considered in scoring a fight so saying look at his face means very little. What if a fighter lands one shot that causes a swollen eye and broken nose whilst oversize getting beaten up should he get the round?

    or if a fighter throws 150 punches in one round and none in the following 2 is he ahead of his opponent who has thrown 40 punches around for three rounds? because after this three rounds one will have thrown 120 punches and the other 150. because as far as i'm concerned thats going to be 2-1 to the guy who has thrown less rounds overall.

    Compubox is not relevant when scoring a fight because fights are not scored as a collective but round by round.

    any way this is how a fight should be scored;

    Clean punches: a punch that lands cleanly, not on gloves arms shoulders or illegal punches.

    Defense: Defense is important because it helps a boxer set up his offense.

    Effective aggression/ Ring generalship: In the extremely rare case of a judge scoring a round otherwise even, the judge might side with the boxer who was the aggressor on the theory that he is trying to make the fight. However, the key is whether or not the aggression is "effective.” Is the boxer landing or just coming forward? The fighter who controls the pace of the fight may also earn points here

    The 10-point must system of scoring: a good example of not understanding this system was Badou Jack this weekend, he kept repeating my knockdown was just a flash knockdown but I really hurt Degale. That doesn't matter it's still a 10-8 round how hurt a person was by the knockdown does not matter when scoring a round.

    now if two fighters, fight and one wins six close rounds and the other dominates 6 rounds brutally the fight is still a draw.

    If you have a problem with this that's fine but that's how a fight is scored full stop.

    stop allowing emotions to influence your opinion on who won a fight saying I didn't score the fight round by round but I feel fighter A won is pointless (Literally) because boxing does not wok like that.

    Also there is no residual scoring, so you can't say fighter A was dominant in the last round but neither did much this round so I'll score for fighter A each round is scored as if it were the first round of a fight.

    and then you have to also allow for interpretation ineffective aggression is not the same as effective aggression.

    Please stop calling close fights robberies.
  • Thraxox
    Banned
    Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
    • Sep 2016
    • 9363
    • 339
    • 56
    • 112,604

    #2
    Then you issue that Ward-Kov isn't a robbery when Kov absolutely mauled Andre ward in the cleaner punches landed, work rate and ring general ship. But of course "HE WORK DAT BODY INSIDE DOE!" Or "WARD SCHOOLED THAT CRUKA, KOV GASSED AND TOOK OVA!"

    Comment

    • nubianpiye
      John Snow dies
      • Jul 2014
      • 2264
      • 200
      • 230
      • 38,432

      #3
      Delete this post please.

      Comment

      • nubianpiye
        John Snow dies
        • Jul 2014
        • 2264
        • 200
        • 230
        • 38,432

        #4
        Originally posted by Thraxox
        Then you issue that Ward-Kov isn't a robbery when Kov absolutely mauled Andre ward in the cleaner punches landed, work rate and ring general ship. But of course "HE WORK DAT BODY INSIDE DOE!" Or "WARD SCHOOLED THAT CRUKA, KOV GASSED AND TOOK OVA!"
        You aren't wrong about Kovalev doing more damage throughout the fight but did he win more rounds? he didn't land cleaner punches a jab scores just like a straight right and Kovalev head was sent back plenty of times by hard straight jabs work rate was very close



        As you can see Ward landed more punches than Kovalev in 6 out of 12 rounds and in other rounds the difference is negligible and as little as 1 punch considering the elements used for scoring a round 1 punch does not determine who won the round as multiple elements combine to determine who wins a round.
        Last edited by nubianpiye; 01-16-2017, 07:45 AM.

        Comment

        • HughJass
          R.I.P Ali
          Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
          • Jul 2009
          • 6255
          • 756
          • 1,016
          • 35,075

          #5
          Winner of the round scores 10,pretty easy.

          Comment

          • nubianpiye
            John Snow dies
            • Jul 2014
            • 2264
            • 200
            • 230
            • 38,432

            #6
            Originally posted by HughJass
            Winner of the round scores 10,pretty easy.
            How do you determine who wins the rounds

            Comment

            • daggum
              All time great
              Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
              • Feb 2008
              • 43683
              • 4,650
              • 3
              • 166,270

              #7
              how to score a fight:

              step 1: who do you like better?

              step 2: score it for the guy you like better

              step 3: make up or twist things so you can explain why your guy won

              Comment

              • Furn
                Undisputed Champion
                Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                • May 2010
                • 4758
                • 318
                • 35
                • 43,020

                #8
                There also seems to be a theory on here that the close rounds should be shared evenly.

                A good example is the Cotto-Canelo fight which was scored a wide win for Canelo which many said was bad judging because it was a close and competitive fight. However watching it, pretty much every round I thought it was close but Canelo won it. So you can actually have a close fight that's also a shutout.

                Comment

                • nubianpiye
                  John Snow dies
                  • Jul 2014
                  • 2264
                  • 200
                  • 230
                  • 38,432

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Furn
                  There also seems to be a theory on here that the close rounds should be shared evenly.

                  A good example is the Cotto-Canelo fight which was scored a wide win for Canelo which many said was bad judging because it was a close and competitive fight. However watching it, pretty much every round I thought it was close but Canelo won it. So you can actually have a close fight that's also a shutout.
                  Yes the way fights are scored you can have a clue and competitive fight not appear that way on the scorecards because you can be competitive and still lose a round.

                  Comment

                  • asgarth
                    Moderator
                    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                    • May 2010
                    • 3180
                    • 268
                    • 144
                    • 36,835

                    #10
                    True, in boxing you judge on a round by round basis and with that in mind the DeGale vs Jack fight was really close. A draw was by no means a robbery. I had it 114-113 for Jack.

                    Jack certainly did more damage, but this is irelevant in terms of judging who won the fight.

                    I use excel for scoring my fights and have 2 additional parameters, so I can have a better picture of the fight.
                    Besides the scores, i also rate the pace/action of the fight from 1-5 and I rate the rounds if the round could have gone either way, was close, clear or dominant.

                    Comment

                    Working...
                    TOP