How to score a fight

[club fighter]

The OP has plagiarized veteran judge Steve Weisfeld's article on "*TIPS* on how to score a fight" from Premier Boxing Champions website and in no way should be considered a definitive guide on how to score a fight.

The Jack/DeGale debacle (along with others) is a pure reflection of the inadequacies and possible corruption of pro boxing's judging system, especially when the audience's disappointment and the surprised look of winning(gift) fighters tells a clearly different story.

Don't instruct us how to view or score fights when you don't even do it with your own words.

[nubianpiye]

The OP has plagiarized veteran judge Steve Weisfeld's article on "*TIPS* on how to score a fight" from Premier Boxing Champions website and in no way should be considered a definitive guide on how to score a fight.

The Jack/DeGale debacle (along with others) is a pure reflection of the inadequacies and possible corruption of pro boxing's judging system, especially when the audience's disappointment and the surprised look of winning(gift) fighters tells a clearly different story.

Don't instruct us how to view or score fights when you don't even do it with your own words.

I haven't plagiarised anything that very article is posted in this thread the way to score a fight is
Universally agreed there is no
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[bojangles1987]

Nothing matters towards scoring more than one question: "Who is landing the greatest number of effective punches in a round?"

99% of the time the struggle with scoring involves judging the effectiveness of punches between two guys landing similar numbers of punches. Whose punches are actually controlling the pace of the fight and such. DeGale vs. Jack was actually a good case in this regard, because many rounds did come down to parsing the difference between DeGale's effective flurries vs. Jack's flashier single punches. It's a tough fight to score.

When people bring up defense and aggression and ring generalship as if these criteria are on the same level as the punches landed, it's annoying. Nothing matters nearly so much as that simple question. Who the **** is actually landing with any real effectiveness?

Yeah that's kind of unfair to the Paulie Malignaggi's of the boxing world, but he knew that when he got into the game. If Paulie's not landing enough to stop his opponent from landing about the same, then his punches are not effective.

[Tom Cruise]

The recent Gonzalez and Degale fights have made a lot of people bring up facial damage as a way to score the fight.

I just wanted to use this thread to say that it isnt a part of the scoring criteria, nor has it ever been.

Its not even representative of cleaner punching as even grazing punches or punches into the gloves can cause cuts and swelling (see the Matthysse vs Garcia fight, where even despite all the big punches Danny lands, it was actually a soft grazing shot that caused Lucas' eye to close)

Basically, if your argument for a fighter winning the fight doesnt involve, 'my guy won these rounds. It was more rounds than the other guy' then it isnt valid.

[Tom Cruise]

Nothing matters towards scoring more than one question: "Who is landing the greatest number of effective punches in a round?"

99% of the time the struggle with scoring involves judging the effectiveness of punches between two guys landing similar numbers of punches. Whose punches are actually controlling the pace of the fight and such. DeGale vs. Jack was actually a good case in this regard, because many rounds did come down to parsing the difference between DeGale's effective flurries vs. Jack's flashier single punches. It's a tough fight to score.

When people bring up defense and aggression and ring generalship as if these criteria are on the same level as the punches landed, it's annoying. Nothing matters nearly so much as that simple question. Who the **** is actually landing with any real effectiveness?

Yeah that's kind of unfair to the Paulie Malignaggi's of the boxing world, but he knew that when he got into the game. If Paulie's not landing enough to stop his opponent from landing about the same, then his punches are not effective.

I think all the scoring criteria are rendered redundant by clean effective punching tbh. Defence, Ring Generalship and Effective Aggression all boil down to punches landed (or not landed).

[The Big Dunn]

how to score a fight:

step 1: who do you like better?

step 2: score it for the guy you like better

step 3: make up or twist things so you can explain why your guy won

Seeing how you score fights makes me understand why you have a tough time seeing what every rational, objective fan saw in the Floyd v Manny fight.

[bojangles1987]

I think all the scoring criteria are rendered redundant by clean effective punching tbh. Defence, Ring Generalship and Effective Aggression all boil down to punches landed (or not landed).

Pretty much. Those are all reasons for who is landing the more clean effective punching, not criteria separate from it. It gets frustrating to see people try and argue aggression or generalship over the actual punches landed.

[club fighter]

Universally agreed

...I've seen several different takes on it in articles, and priorities of each factor have been different.

Only reason I said that is because you didn't acknowledge your source from the beginning and then went on to tell us how to view things. On top of that we're mainly evaluating the competency (or corruption) of boxing officials, a perfectly legit endeavor IMHO.

Judging is subjective and when the masses or majority see things so different from the judges decision it needs to be evaluated.

[nubianpiye]

...I've seen several different takes on it in articles, and priorities of each factor have been different.

Only reason I said that is because you didn't acknowledge your source from the beginning and then went on to tell us how to view things. On top of that we're mainly evaluating the competency (or corruption) of boxing officials, a perfectly legit endeavor IMHO.

Judging is subjective and when the masses or majority see things so different from the judges decision it needs to be evaluated.

I don't need to quote a source this isn't an essay or
Something that's really debated by boxing fans it's generally accepted by anyone who knows how to score a fight it's like me describing how to throw a jab its basic knowledge to anyone who knows boxing it should
In fact he described in the same way by everyone who knows what they are talking about. Moving on from this why not discuss the topic instead of trying to play private investigator when there is nothing to investigate.

[daggum]

I don't need to quote a source this isn't an essay or
Something that's really debated by boxing fans it's generally accepted by anyone who knows how to score a fight it's like me describing how to throw a jab its basic knowledge to anyone who knows boxing it should
In fact he described in the same way by everyone who knows what they are talking about. Moving on from this why not discuss the topic instead of trying to play private investigator when there is nothing to investigate.

you are going to internet jail buddy