Golovkin/Jacobs for the lineal title?

[Robbie Barrett]

There is no hard and fast rules as it pertains to "lineal" titles, but I think a fair standard would be 2 consecutive fights outside the division and you have officially vacated it.

Why should everyone else in the division be denied the opportunity to fight for it just so the current "champ" can pad his retirement account?

Canelo has given Golovkin the chance to fight for it in September. Up to Golovkin to accept.

[Real King Kong]

Every site that ranks fighters has Canelo as lineal champion, the lineal champ by definition is "the man". It's a title Golovkin will actually have to win in the ring.

So canelo is the mw champ indefinitely...even if he doesn't fight at mw for another 2 years, or never does? Does anyone really care about the lineal title in this case? I get that you think it makes ggg fans mad, but nobody thinks canelo is the man at 160.

[soul_survivor]

The top champ is the guy that beat the top champ, that beat the top champ......... and so on. That's lineal, that's Canelo.

Having more titles doesn't make you the top champ, you can just be given them. You don't get given lineal.

It would be better if you read the post I was replying to. He makes some good points.

[Larry the boss]

Whole point of the lineal is that it is passed down the line. Unless Canelo loses or retires, he's still gonna have it. Just because you don't like it (and believe me, I don't either) doesn't mean we should pick and choose what suits us.

^^^^^yep...

[Larry the boss]

he will lose it if he continues to fight outside the weight class he has until the end of this year to defend it or he gets stripped.

Ring does not=Lineal title

[-MEGA-]

I'd say yes. This fight should re-establish lineage

[Rock&Roll]

I'd say yes. This fight should re-establish lineage

I'll second that. Given that Conela was too small for mw, now all of a sudden we are not sure if he'll drop down in weight to make the division. Wtf?

[Chollo Vista]

With Canelo about to fight outside the division for a second time (moving up to Super Caneloweight), most places are likely going to stop recognising his 'lineal' claim.

With a vacant title, Golovkin-Jacobs would effectively be No.1 vs No.2, making the winner the new 'Lineal Champion'. More importantly though, the Lineal title will actually reflect the No.1 fighter, which isn't always the case.

I personally don't care much for lineage, but I know a lot of you do. I see it as one more step towards completely unifying and then hopefully moving up. What are your thoughts?

Post on your real account JSFD

[techliam]

Post on your real account JSFD

Don't quote me for your petty little feud, with some other poster I care equally less about.

Being an active member of this forum has become an exercise of weeding out thousands of terrible posts, in hopes of finding a couple of good ones.

If anyone has a fully compiled ignore list that I could use to make this forum bearable again, let me know

[Chrismart]

Lineal can get watered down a lot in some cases. 160 is one of those cases for sure.
It's been 4 years (and 5 straight fights) since a fighter fighting for that trinket was allowed to weigh in at 160. That was Martin Murray.
Canelo's last (and next defence) take/took place outside of the MW division.

I've seen a lot of posts about how Canelo will still be the lineal if they don't meet, even if GGG has all the belts. Like it's some great, and even hilarious feat. But, so what really? A guy can defend his lineal for the rest of his career fighting below par opposition and will still be 'lineal' as long as he doesn't lose. While the rest of the top guys in the division could be facing one another with no chance to claim lineal.

Golovkin and Jacobs are the top 2 in the division. The winner is the main man at 160. He may not be 'the man who beat the man'. But he will seen as the top dog at 160.

Stevenson is lineal at 175, but Ward and Kovalev are the main men. They've faced eachother and probably will again.
Just as GGG and Jacobs are facing eachother.

I mean, if Jacobs knocks out GGG and Canelo beats Chavez.
Canelo may be lineal, but Jacobs would be the MW king no doubt.

Edit : Slightly off the topic, so apologies.