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  • #91
    Originally posted by kafkod View Post
    Canelo handing his belt over without even trying to negotiate a catchweight .. I don't think anybody saw that coming, not even Canelo, or he wouldn't have called GGG into the ring and told everybody he was going to defend against him at 160.

    GGG was right not to consider 155. Somebody had to end the catchweight bullshit with the WBC MW belt. GGG kept his word and did just that. Respect to him.

    You are tallking garbage about me having double standards. Kovalev has an exclusivity deal with HBO. Stevenson doesn't have any deal with ST and Haymon only brought them into the negotiations with Kovalev because he wanted to scupper the fight.

    I never even said that Canelo/Khan was a horrible fight. But Canelo sought out Khan instead of his mando. GGG signed to fight Eubank Jr and ended up with Kell Brook instead when Eubank wouldn't sign. He didn't go looking for Brook, like Canelo did with Khan and he didn't duck a MW challenger to fight Brook instead. Also, Brook is a much tougher opponent than Khan, at MW. GGG/Brook was one of the best fights I've seen in a long time.

    Do you think Ward would have fought Kovalev if his promoter hadn't guaranteed him more than double the money Kovalev was on? I don't.
    Canelo and Oscar said come to 155 at least one hundred times, and GGG said no one hundred times. I argued with you endlessly about that, and you said GGG shouldn't budge, and he didn't. So he got to fight Dominic Wade and Kell Brook! GGG is "business man" just like everyone else. That's why he would agree to 164 for Ward, but 168 for Froch and Chavez Jr. WHY? MONEY! That's no different than Canelo saying he'll fight Chavez Jr @ 165, but not GGG @ 160! It's a calculated business move! They all do it! K2 has finally realized that if they want to play with the big boys, they have to pay! Jacobs played hardball and got what he wanted, which is more than what we can say for GGG! Keep playing hardball with Canelo, and let's see if that works!

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    • #92
      Originally posted by boxingitis View Post
      Ggg fighting Jacobs next u moron. What punching bag is canelo fighting next?
      Oh yeah, 1 legit guy in 37 fights...I don't care about Canelo, but if you want to compare their resumes, we can do that too....moron.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
        Canelo and Oscar said come to 155 at least one hundred times, and GGG said no one hundred times. I argued with you endlessly about that, and you said GGG shouldn't budge, and he didn't. So he got to fight Dominic Wade and Kell Brook! GGG is "business man" just like everyone else. That's why he would agree to 164 for Ward, but 168 for Froch and Chavez Jr. WHY? MONEY! That's no different than Canelo saying he'll fight Chavez Jr @ 165, but not GGG @ 160! It's a calculated business move! They all do it! K2 has finally realized that if they want to play with the big boys, they have to pay! Jacobs played hardball and got what he wanted, which is more than what we can say for GGG! Keep playing hardball with Canelo, and let's see if that works!
        166 for froch lol

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        • #94
          Originally posted by kafkod View Post
          You're saying GGG declined an offer of 155, and in the same paragraph, you're giving us your opinion on why 155 was never offered?
          I was responding to someone else. If you can't understand what I'm talking about its ok. Ggg getting his a.ss beat by Canelo when they fight. You understand that?

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Metho_4u View Post
            Oh yeah, 1 legit guy in 37 fights...I don't care about Canelo, but if you want to compare their resumes, we can do that too....moron.
            The difference is that Golovkin isn't receiving judges' gifts to win fights. He's hammering opponents into the ground.

            Golovkin's victories are actually real victories. If Lara ever steps up, you'll never have to argue about who really won that fight. You will KNOW.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
              Canelo and Oscar said come to 155 at least one hundred times, and GGG said no one hundred times. I argued with you endlessly about that, and you said GGG shouldn't budge, and he didn't. So he got to fight Dominic Wade and Kell Brook! GGG is "business man" just like everyone else. That's why he would agree to 164 for Ward, but 168 for Froch and Chavez Jr. WHY? MONEY! That's no different than Canelo saying he'll fight Chavez Jr @ 165, but not GGG @ 160! It's a calculated business move! They all do it! K2 has finally realized that if they want to play with the big boys, they have to pay! Jacobs played hardball and got what he wanted, which is more than what we can say for GGG! Keep playing hardball with Canelo, and let's see if that works!
              Playing hardball with Canelo got GGG the WBC MW belt and, so I've heard, the biggest offer he's had in his career so far.

              Canelo doesn't need Golovkin doe, blah, blah, blah ...

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Joe Beamish View Post
                The difference is that Golovkin isn't receiving judges' gifts to win fights. He's hammering opponents into the ground.

                Golovkin's victories are actually real victories. If Lara ever steps up, you'll never have to argue about who really won that fight. You will KNOW.
                Is it the responsibility of Lara's (challenger) promoter to make an offer to the champ, or is it the responsibility if GGG's (champ) promoter to make an offer to the challenger? If you like Lara, you'll love this:

                http://www.thesweetscience.com/featu...erislandy-lara

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                  Playing hardball with Canelo got GGG the WBC MW belt and, so I've heard, the biggest offer he's had in his career so far.

                  Canelo doesn't need Golovkin doe, blah, blah, blah ...
                  You already know who's winning! Go check the bank deposits, PPV's, Purses, Live Gates, etc., for 2016, then get back to me! Your family can't eat belts! Does the GGG vs. Jacobs PPV outperform an Alvarez vs. Chavez Jr. PPV? All I can say is: "the definition of insanity is..."

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Joe Beamish View Post
                    The difference is that Golovkin isn't receiving judges' gifts to win fights. He's hammering opponents into the ground.

                    Golovkin's victories are actually real victories. If Lara ever steps up, you'll never have to argue about who really won that fight. You will KNOW.
                    Soooo, why hasn't he tried to make a fight with Lara then? Lol...hammering them into the ground huh? Like he did that ww that he never knocked down? Or how about that 100-1 Wade? He sure showed him huh? You're too easy.

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                    • Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                      Playing hardball with Canelo got GGG the WBC MW belt and, so I've heard, the biggest offer he's had in his career so far.

                      Canelo doesn't need Golovkin doe, blah, blah, blah ...
                      It also prevented ggg from getting a ppv split vs canelo, now there will be no organization to defend him on the negotiation table.. is either canelos way or the highway...

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