Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Trainer: Canelo is The Fight That Should Happen Next

[Bronx2245]

And when Canelo vacates his WBC title because GGG is his mando, that's GGG ducking Canelo. The ******ity at this place is beyond comprehension.

We all know that Canelo is letting GGG get older, and his move was a clear duck! I saw it coming. You didn't! It was Team Golovkin who were saying "160 or no fight!" They got what they (AND YOU) asked for! Back to the topic of "the double-standard." You won't call Kovalev's move to back out of the purse bid with Adonis Stevenson, a "duck" because Kovalev fights on HBO. Yet had Jacobs decided he's only fighting on Showtime, you would've called him a duck! Same as when Canelo fought Khan @ 155, "Oh that's horrible!" Then GGG fights Brook @ 160, "Great fight!" I even recall you stating Ward would come up with an injury excuse to get out of the Kovalev fight. You were wrong AGAIN! Fighters of today are business men, and GGG is no different than any other fighter!

[Progrssive_Jedi]

There's no flat fee with upside. If there's upside, it's not flat. 65/35 sounds reasonable, but that's a far cry from a flat fee

The offer as I understand it is 15m with potential of upside. While K2 is demanding a percentage of overall take.

The upside would be based on ppv sales.

The overall take would be based on everything.including money coming in from worldwide, where Golovkin is very popular.

[eco1]

I believe Jr. Is going to beat him too..noy many of us

If Jr isn't drained, i am with you.

[BOXING-SCRIBE]

If Jr isn't drained, i am with you.

I think he is already prepping, if I had to assume. He has wanted nelo for a long time.People talk about jr like he sucks, he isn't great, but he doesnt suck. And yea he may have the weight advantage on fight night, but thats what it is, an advantage, so long he makes the weight,right? The ****er knows how to apply pressure and has a chin from the gods lol. I can't see nelo fighting him off.

[SplitSecond]

not gonna happen, this is Canelo's schedule

May 6, 2017 - Chavez Jr
Sep 16, 2017 - Cotto
May 5, 2018 - Saunders
Sep 15, 2018 - Lemieux
May 4, 2019 - Golovkin

When he finally fights Golovkin "And they said he was ducking him, that shows them!"

[icha]

Not correct. WBA was clear that if Canelo v GGG was gonna happen, they'd postpone the mandatory for the sake of boxing.

Not only that, Jacobs would have easily taken step aside money to fight Golovkin after Canelo, as that fight would be bigger then.

It's absurd to have Golovkin's mandatory position as a excuse for the fight not getting made, it's not remotely accurate.



It's not Golovkin whose out there promising the fight gets made. It's not Golovkin whose promoter is facing pressure in USA and Mexico to make the fight.

People said he should take the 10m before the 15m.

What are they going to say when he gets 30%?

Like i said, ggg can take or decline the offer, but he doesnt have any lucrative options for ppv, canelo has chavez and cotto in line waiting to happen, and yes i said 10 mill was good money, cuz that was the minimum he could be getting on an 8 fig offer, but now we know that offer was 15 mil, and that sounds great money for a guy whos ppv history is poor...
And you are talking about preassure for canelo from mexicans, as far as i know mexicans are more interested in canelo vs chavez than ggg or even cotto for that matter.. heck canelo facing marquez could be even bigger for mexicans...

[icha]

The offer as I understand it is 15m with potential of upside. While K2 is demanding a percentage of overall take.

The upside would be based on ppv sales.

The overall take would be based on everything.including money coming in from worldwide, where Golovkin is very popular.

For once you got it right... no split but upside... similar to the deal canelo got from floyd, where canelo had an upside only after the fight reached certain numbers, which it did...

[kafkod]

We all know that Canelo is letting GGG get older, and his move was a clear duck! I saw it coming. You didn't! It was Team Golovkin who were saying "160 or no fight!" They got what they (AND YOU) asked for! Back to the topic of "the double-standard." You won't call Kovalev's move to back out of the purse bid with Adonis Stevenson, a "duck" because Kovalev fights on HBO. Yet had Jacobs decided he's only fighting on Showtime, you would've called him a duck! Same as when Canelo fought Khan @ 155, "Oh that's horrible!" Then GGG fights Brook @ 160, "Great fight!" I even recall you stating Ward would come up with an injury excuse to get out of the Kovalev fight. You were wrong AGAIN! Fighters of today are business men, and GGG is no different than any other fighter!

Canelo handing his belt over without even trying to negotiate ... I don't think anybody saw that coming, not even Canelo, or he wouldn't have called GGG into the ring and told everybody he was going to defend against him at 160.

GGG was right not to consider 155. Somebody had to end the catchweight bullshit with the WBC MW belt. GGG kept his word and did just that. Respect to him.

You are tallking garbage about me having double standards. Kovalev has an exclusivity deal with HBO. Stevenson doesn't have any deal with ST and Haymon only brought them into the negotiations with Kovalev because he wanted to scupper the fight.

I never even said that Canelo/Khan was a horrible fight. I wouldn't have had any problem with it if Canelo had kept his word and fought GGG next.

But Canelo sought out Khan instead of his mando. GGG signed to fight Eubank Jr and ended up with Kell Brook instead when Eubank wouldn't sign. He didn't go looking for Brook, like Canelo did with Khan, and he didn't duck a MW challenger to fight Brook instead. Also, Brook is a much tougher opponent than Khan, at MW. GGG/Brook was one of the best fights I've seen in a long time.

Do you think Ward would have fought Kovalev if his promoter hadn't guaranteed him more than double the money Kovalev was on? I don't.

[HeroBando]

For once you got it right... no split but upside... similar to the deal canelo got from floyd, where canelo had an upside only after the fight reached certain numbers, which it did...

That's how upside works every time. Once it hits some threshold, you start getting a percentage. That's not a flat fee

[Joe Beamish]

Canelo handing his belt over without even trying to negotiate ... I don't think anybody saw that coming, not even Canelo, or he wouldn't have called GGG into the ring and told everybody he was going to defend against him at 160.

GGG was right not to consider 155. Somebody had to end the catchweight bullshit with the WBC MW belt. GGG kept his word and did just that. Respect to him.

You are tallking garbage about me having double standards. Kovalev has an exclusivity deal with HBO. Stevenson doesn't have any deal with ST and Haymon only brought them into the negotiations with Kovalev because he wanted to scupper the fight.

I never even said that Canelo/Khan was a horrible fight. I wouldn't have had any problem with it if Canelo had kept his word and fought GGG next.

But Canelo sought out Khan instead of his mando. GGG signed to fight Eubank Jr and ended up with Kell Brook instead when Eubank wouldn't sign. He didn't go looking for Brook, like Canelo did with Khan, and he didn't duck a MW challenger to fight Brook instead. Also, Brook is a much tougher opponent than Khan, at MW. GGG/Brook was one of the best fights I've seen in a long time.

Do you think Ward would have fought Kovalev if his promoter hadn't guaranteed him more than double the money Kovalev was on? I don't.

Quality post.