Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Trainer: Canelo is The Fight That Should Happen Next

[icha]

They don't need to put up that much upfront. With upside it's all about how it performs at the box office. If it tanks, GGG gets less than 15m. If it's a massive success, everybody gets their share. Less risk for GBP, financially

why do you think GBP is the one making the offers and not K2???
easy, is golden boys money....
GBP is also the one offering chavez the payday, no different here... Oscar and canelo want to gamble with their own money, they did it before when they fought angulo and payed off very well...
of course ggg can choose no to take the offer, if he thinks is better for his career then thats up to him...

[Ake-Dawg]

They don't need to put up that much upfront. With upside it's all about how it performs at the box office. If it tanks, GGG gets less than 15m. If it's a massive success, everybody gets their share. Less risk for GBP, financially

Agreed it's less risk....but GBP is assuming the majority of the risk and will do the lions share of the promoting. How should that be reflected in the money split presuming that each respective fighter pays their promoter from their purse? That's why my view is 65-35 or the flat fee with upside if the fight is more successful than predicted, which the flat fee being basically an appearance fee since K2 won't be co-promoting.

[_Maxi]

I like how you twist things. I can do that too. Golovkin delayed the Jacobs fight so he couldn't fight Canelo in May on purpose. See how easy it is?

Yes i said Brook could have done something to weigh more on the scale at the 30 day weight, because i didn't think he would be ****** enough to carry so much weight and the pic posted didn't show his lower half.

Brook was carrying more fat than he usually does, that's a fact.


You always bring these things up to deflect when you're losing the argument.


Remember when you called me an ape because i was a Mayweather fan and you assumed i was black, then you claimed you weren't being racist?

No, Golovkin couldn't force Canelo in the ring in May 2017, because Canelo and GBP stablished the date of September 2017. It wasn't Golovkin.

I called you an ape. You are assuming that I'm telling you something about race, but actually I'm telling you that you have lower IQ than a normal human being.

White ape: http://www.khaskhabar.com/images/pic...38HaZFbo-E.jpg

[HURTFEELINGS]

GBP doesnt need GGG, he needs them. Canelo was part of the 2nd highest selling ppv, ggg sold 97k ppv ONCE, Canelo regularly does over 300k, ggg sold 97k ONCE. Only people on boxing boards know who gloveacabdriver is (lol). Its simple negotiations. They're asking Canelo to move up in weight, with his side putting the money up, upfront. Canelo has Cotto II, or Chavez jr BOTH will sell more ppv's and make more money than a canelo vs ggg fight. Hell he can drag Margarito into a fight or even drag up Floyds name and make more than a fight with ggg. HE DOESNT NEED GGG, ggg is a nobody on the boxing landscape, Canelo's resume SH|TS ON ggg's. He doesnt need ggg and thats a huge part of the negotiations...his other options that will make GBP and Canelo alot more money, he can fight tomato cans like ggg (you dont/didnt have a problem with ggg doing it) OH I FORGOT, BROWN people are held to a higher standard.

[kafkod]

could've if team ggg didn't decline 155.. Now I know what you are going to say... It was never offered blah blah blah... It was never offered because Abel Sanchez said they will not go 1 ounce below 160...

You're saying GGG declined an offer of 155, and in the same paragraph, you're giving us your opinion on why 155 was never offered?

[HeroBando]

Promotion cost money. All those cities during the press tour. Private planes, countdown shows, 24/7 etc... For the Cotto fight Floyd spent 10 mil just on the press tour.

Hey if it's too much of a burden for GBP, I'm sure K2 would gladly take over the promotion. I kinda doubt that 10m figure btw

[HeroBando]

Agreed it's less risk....but GBP is assuming the majority of the risk and will do the lions share of the promoting. How should that be reflected in the money split presuming that each respective fighter pays their promoter from their purse? That's why my view is 65-35 or the flat fee with upside if the fight is more successful than predicted, which the flat fee being basically an appearance fee since K2 won't be co-promoting.

There's no flat fee with upside. If there's upside, it's not flat. 65/35 sounds reasonable, but that's a far cry from a flat fee

[Kigali]

No, Golovkin couldn't force Canelo in the ring in May 2017, because Canelo and GBP stablished the date of September 2017. It wasn't Golovkin.

I called you an ape. You are assuming that I'm telling you something about race, but actually I'm telling you that you have lower IQ than a normal human being.

White ape: http://www.khaskhabar.com/images/pic...38HaZFbo-E.jpg

You called him an ape because you're a greasy ****-loving mestizo.

[HURTFEELINGS]

You called him an ape because you're a greasy ****-loving mestizo.

EVERYONE KNOWS ONE THING...THEY CANT FIGHT, so they come on here to talk badly about those that can fight

[Progrssive_Jedi]

Nice try a deflect from the fact that Canelo couldn't have fought Golovkin next, because Golovkin had a mandatory. I was right you were wrong, AGAIN.

Not correct. WBA was clear that if Canelo v GGG was gonna happen, they'd postpone the mandatory for the sake of boxing.

Not only that, Jacobs would have easily taken step aside money to fight Golovkin after Canelo, as that fight would be bigger then.

It's absurd to have Golovkin's mandatory position as a excuse for the fight not getting made, it's not remotely accurate.

for once i agree with you, but as soon as canelo-chavez is over ggg needs to seal the deal, you dont want cotto stealing the show on his last year of boxing, if that happens the fight gets pushed to 2018... i still think a ggg fight can generate maybe a lil more than a cotto fight, but ggg will be there next year and cotto most likely not... with very little good b-sides left for ppv, fighters gonna take what they can while they can, not saying is the right thing, but it is whats in their mind...

It's not Golovkin whose out there promising the fight gets made. It's not Golovkin whose promoter is facing pressure in USA and Mexico to make the fight.

People said he should take the 10m before the 15m.

What are they going to say when he gets 30%?