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  • Shrap
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    #61
    Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
    It's a thing called sarcasm. You honestly thought Froch was serious?
    ...What? It absolutely was serious. He laughed because he was so blunt and straight up, which is completely unexpected from a pro boxer. That's why the interviewer said "that's honesty for you".
    Last edited by Shrap; 12-10-2016, 09:02 AM.

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    • Low_Blows_420
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      #62
      Froch is not a active fighter...he is retired. Talking about anybody negative is irrelevant. He has no place or purpose. Unless he is coming out of retirement.

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      • cameltoe
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        #63
        Originally posted by SteveM
        With these latest tweets and sound bites Froch has achieved something he never could as an active fighter - he has entered the P4P top 5 .... in the category of 'Most annoying Retired Fighter'

        You become an overwhelming favourite based on past performances and who you are fighting.

        Does anybody talk about Kessler and Bute in awed tones? They were good but not great at the end of the day.

        Ask yourself why Golovkin is an absolute favourite to beat fighters like Murray, and no doubt Jacobs if it ever gets made. Isn't it because he has absolutely dominated similar level fighters in the past?

        Tell me all the fights where Golovkin would be a huge underdog - they only exist at LHW. That says something. At SMW he would probably be evens or slight underdog against Jack/DeGale and Ramirez. Probably evens with Groves.

        I don't see Team Golovkin trying to coax Froch to fight. It's more a case of put up or shut up.
        How about Ward at 168 for a start.

        How about a fighter that's not two weight divisions below him? (Brook)

        I see nothing but Carl retaliating to what team GGG are trying to do, which is set up another favourable fight.

        End of the day, Macklin and Murray are his best wins. That doesn't come close to the quality of opponent Froch faced. Twist it whichever way you want, Brook is probably the most skilled fighter he faced and he's 147lb'er. If GGG faced a MW version of Brook I see him being dominated.

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        • Loque-san
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          #64
          Originally posted by cameltoe
          End of the day, Macklin and Murray are his best wins. That doesn't come close to the quality of opponent Froch faced. Twist it whichever way you want, Brook is probably the most skilled fighter he faced and he's 147lb'er. If GGG faced a MW version of Brook I see him being dominated.
          At the end of the day, Golovkin is currently regarded as one of the best fighter in the world. A top 5-10 P4P fighter, the middleweight king, a special talent, a feared knockout artist, etc. I'm not a big fan of him, that's just the reality.

          Froch was just a good fighter. You can bring up his resume (a good one, not a great one) all you want, but Golovkin is clearly in a different league.

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          • Zaryu
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            #65
            I feel like I've seen this before, it seems like it's just a rinse and repeat with GGG detractors and his fans.

            Anyone with common sense knows GGG has tried to face the best fighters available, I would only exclude Ward but the circumstances were messy so I give him a pass, and Froch himself opted for retirement over GGG at a time where he only spoke highly of him.

            I say sour g****s on Froch's part because he misses the attention GGG is getting.

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            • SteveM
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              #66
              Originally posted by cameltoe
              How about Ward at 168 for a start.

              How about a fighter that's not two weight divisions below him? (Brook)

              I see nothing but Carl retaliating to what team GGG are trying to do, which is set up another favourable fight.

              End of the day, Macklin and Murray are his best wins. That doesn't come close to the quality of opponent Froch faced. Twist it whichever way you want, Brook is probably the most skilled fighter he faced and he's 147lb'er. If GGG faced a MW version of Brook I see him being dominated.
              Ward has already said it's a struggle to make 175 and he can't make 168 anymore. Yes he would be a heavy underdog against Ward at this point - but at what weight? 172? 173? Of course he would be an underdog against #4# no. 2 fighter at 2 weight classes above.

              Maybe they are trying to sound out Froch, seeming as it would be a money fight in the UK. But I see it more as put up or shut-up. I guess Froch is answering questions about Golovkin but he could just say "no comment" or "I'm retired, that's it" instead he comes across as bitter that other ACTIVE fighters are in the limelight. And it's not just Golovkin - ask him about DeGale and he sounds the same.

              I don't know how Macklin is a best win - I'd have Stevens and Lemieux as better wins than Macklin.

              A MW Kell Brook - didn't he come in heavier than Brook? Apart from that, where is this mythical figure? Heavier fighters are generally slower. You could make a case that a HW Ward would dominate current HWs - but again, where is this mythical figure?

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              • Eastcoast
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                #67
                Froch is shook. Not once did he mention 80,000 in Wembly stadium.

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                • youbeight
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                  #68
                  you guys sound like morons trynna defend ggg in here challenging froch resume. this dude has beaten more champs than golovkin has fought and did it in less fights. we all know theres guys out there that wont fight golovkin, but giving him credit for that is ******ed. standards are almost always placed a guy not finding a challenge in his own weight class to move to another. thats always been a norm for centuries in boxing. thats why some of the ATGs in the sport either have multiple weight class belts, or if theyve stayed in a division their whole careers, have OTHER ATGs to their resume.

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                  • TX_BOXNG
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                    #69
                    166 for Froch, 164 Ward only 164, Chavez ok 170 yea ok yea big drama show yea lol Brook too small he 147 too small, Mayweather yea 154 yea 154 big drama show Nelo only 160 Nelo only 160 , Brook big he 160 he 160 he big he biggest challenge of my career lol

                    A 147lb was his biggest career challenge lol i saw it was he was wobble by Brook lol


                    Froch over GGG easily

                    GGG needs to step it up if he wants to be a great, right now hes just a great joke, he has power he has boxing skills he comes forward he can be great he just to afraid to dare himself

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                    • Shadoww702
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by SteveM
                      Ward has already said it's a struggle to make 175 and he can't make 168 anymore. Yes he would be a heavy underdog against Ward at this point - but at what weight? 172? 173? Of course he would be an underdog against #4# no. 2 fighter at 2 weight classes above.

                      Maybe they are trying to sound out Froch, seeming as it would be a money fight in the UK. But I see it more as put up or shut-up. I guess Froch is answering questions about Golovkin but he could just say "no comment" or "I'm retired, that's it" instead he comes across as bitter that other ACTIVE fighters are in the limelight. And it's not just Golovkin - ask him about DeGale and he sounds the same.

                      I don't know how Macklin is a best win - I'd have Stevens and Lemieux as better wins than Macklin.

                      A MW Kell Brook - didn't he come in heavier than Brook? Apart from that, where is this mythical figure? Heavier fighters are generally slower. You could make a case that a HW Ward would dominate current HWs - but again, where is this mythical figure?
                      Maidana has been fattening up on McDonald's fast food every day. Heck him and Ricky Fatton can both EASILY make MW and fight GGG. As long as they weigh that much your cool with the fight... it takes more than just WEIGHT to move up. The guys aren't USED to boxing and moving with that much weight and also never been hit by dudes who spent their whole life at said weight. *** GGG weighs around 170 which is LHW. Why aren't u ok with calling him out??? This is why a lot of ppl call BS on GTards.

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