Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Coach: If No Canelo Fight, It's Not Because Of GGG

[Robi13]

Team Canelo gave up the middle weight belt and ran back down to jmw to justify delaying the fight....they want no part of GGG while he is still in his prime...will continue to duck!!

by vacating he also gained leverage in negotiations. It was a business move. Not a duck. Ggg ducked by not accepting 155... It can go both ways. Ggg has no say in negotiations at all. None. Fight was offered to ggg and it still hasn't been made. Ggg fault no one else's.

[Shadoww702]

he is in fact the current JMW champion as per WBO, like it or not...
he is willing to fight ggg at the full 160 in september and that alone is a big concesion, not because he will have trouble at 160, but because he could drain ggg at a lower weight if he wanted... what is GGG willing to concede in order to make this fight???

Lol Ive yet to see GGG concede anything. In fact they do the OPPOSITE and don't negotiate and the fights we want dont happen.

[Shadoww702]

by vacating he also gained leverage in negotiations. It was a business move. Not a duck. Ggg ducked by not accepting 155... It can go both ways. Ggg has no say in negotiations at all. None. Fight was offered to ggg and it still hasn't been made. Ggg fault no one else's.

There was no way in HELL they were going to split the money 60/40

[Deletrious]

by vacating he also gained leverage in negotiations. It was a business move. Not a duck. Ggg ducked by not accepting 155... It can go both ways. Ggg has no say in negotiations at all. None. Fight was offered to ggg and it still hasn't been made. Ggg fault no one else's.

Canelo never even negotiated weight before vacating.

[Scipio2009]

drawing strength doesn't matter when it's beyond obvious that Golovkin is the lesser star, yet the Ward fight (and other fights, tbh) fell apart because of Golovkin's camp and their insistence on being treated like the bigger star. gtfoh.

Golovkin and his camp have, in their hand, an apparent offer worth over $10m and have balked at taking the fight. lol

[Scipio2009]

It seems you don't understand that GGG is already an A-side fighter against any other fighter in any discussion. Canelo fight is viewed by him as the reward. Even if he beats Canelo, there are no other fights that will earn him more than he is earning already. All other fights are not superfights in terms of money (Ward? 160K buys? Really?), while Canelo is for glory and BIG money. The only fight which GGG would take for whatever money and shot at superstardom would be Mayweather fight, but it doesn't seem realistic.

lol. Golovkin travelled to the UK to take an appearance fee, yet he's the A-side fighter? are you sure?

[Deletrious]

if the fight makes 100 million which is also unlikely, half of that goes to networks & cable providers, now do your math again...

I think it was pretty clear from context I was referring to the total of purses, including ppv split.

100 mil purse would be similar to mayweather v. canelo, and I think ggg v. canelo could do that, if you disagree fine. But I have heard no industry expert say GGG should definitely take 10 mil because purses will be x amount and therefore 10 mil is fair.

Actually you got me looking into it, and Canelo makes far less than I expected per fight. That just strengthens my argument that Canelo doesn't make much more than GGG, he can't make anything close to big money without GGG, and GGG's manager would be a fool to accept 10 mil flat.

[Robi13]

There was no way in HELL they were going to split the money 60/40

wbc split for purse bid on a mandatory is 55 for champ and 45 for challenger. No way ggg gets 45

[Scipio2009]

The flat 10 mil is a non-offer, no boxing expert has said that it is credible. It sounds like a lot to fans, but it's basically what Golovkin can make in two fights normally. Whereas, if the fight makes 100 mil, Canelo now has a 9/1 split, and is making 6 fights worth of money.
9/1 is a ludicous split, any manager representing GGG would be guilty of professional malpractice to accept 10 mil of such a huge pot.

Both fighters should, and easily can, make far more than they would in a normal fight. GGG could agree to take the small side of a 75/25 split, and do far better than 10 mil.

Frankly, Canelo has no where to go but through GGG. He's already damaged his career according to JMM, and Mexican fans will abandon a coward, i.e. Chavez Jr. Therefore GGG has leverage to demand a decent split.

It's not really whether GGG should take short money for the fame (why not fight for a dollar then?) but that no competent manager should or would allow him to do so.

On pure boxing business alone, a 6/1 or 7/1 Alvarez split of the take is about fair value on the fight. Why folks are so insistent on the split being 3/1 (with no economic proof to back the call) is beyond me.

Saul Alvarez can fight Billy Joe Saunders for the WBO 160lb belt (the WBO does very little work with the other three governing bodies anyway) and simply defend that belt for however long he wants to stay at middleweight.

Golovkin has to face Daniel Jacobs or he'll be stripped of the WBA belt, and the IBF's mandatory defense is also coming due soon enough (putting that belt in the lurch as well). nice try, though

[HanzGruber]

I wanna know how much team gg is trying to get. Because 10 mil is more than fair