Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Coach Has No Issue With Ward-Kovalev Outcome

[Robbie Barrett]

Majority of the Lil G jizz drinkers that hate Ward are avoiding this thread.

[Shadoww702]

The boxing judging system predates todays technology, and you just have to wonder if there is a better way given today's options. Having just 3 judges is begging for trouble - why not expand that number for title fights ?

(1) you can given todays technology
(2) watching from a remote location reduces the inherent bias that can affect judges from the home crowd cheering one side over the other
(3) watching from remote locations means you can pick from a much bigger pool of judges (so exclude judges whose nationality is the same as one of the boxers - and NO TEXAN JUDGES WITH TEXAN BOXERS), and also have more judges score the fight
(4) a larger judging panel reduces the likelihood of controversies

Sooo easy to do, and so many advantages, yet boxing clings to a system that has proved itself not to work over and over again (even soccer is starting to wilt to using technology given the ref-only system has also proven itself not to work).

ok pure fantasy time - just imagine, the result is decided by the results sent in by 35 selected boxing writers from around the world, all watching live from where ever they are (result available just as quickly as today, if not quicker - I bet I could design a system where, except for fights which depend on the result of the last round, the result is usually known the moment the final bell goes). Every one of the boxing writers will be justifying their scoring in their articles the next day- no mysteries, no controversies as to who winners are any more, just the chance to disagree with a bunch of people who's job it is to know boxing and to defend their opinions.

I can't remember which organization is trying out judging with noise canceling headphones on but I like that way a WHOLE bunch!

To be fair it seems like foreign judges give out the WORST cards. See Mayweather, Jones Jr. Conlon, and ALL of Germany judges. .. End of the day don't leave it up to the judges. Kovalov Should of had a Plan B or not tired or should of been so tired in the late rounds.

[Lou Cipher]

Maybe

Ass hole....you dont speak unless Lou Cipher tells you too. Don't let me catch you in here again.

[Godsfly]

You mean you like Ward, period.

don't tell me that you are a biased nerd? i thought u were actually serious about the fight & having a real conversation.......but you are a biased nerd?

[kafkod]

don't tell me that you are a biased nerd? i thought u were actually serious about the fight & having a real conversation.......but you are a biased nerd?

I'm trying not to be. But if you like a fighter, and prefer their style to the other guy's, it's hard not to be biased when you're watching a fight.

When I watched the fight live I was biased towards Kovalev, because I thought he would win and I wanted him to win. When I watched it a second time, trying to be objective, there were rounds I thought Kovelev had won that I realised could have gone either way.

I still thought Kovalev won the 10th clearly doe. I'll watch it again tomorrow, and if I see it different, I'll let you know.

[aboutfkntime]

first time I respect Sanchez

I don't want to agree with you.....

..... but, there it is

[aboutfkntime]

True, and the most irritating thing to me is that people are so infatuated with bytching that they're ignoring Loma v Walters!!
Such an amazing fight is going down tomorrow and the buzz around here is nothing more than a low hum.
Loma and Walters deserve major attention. That's another rare "best fighting the best in their division" fight.

GREAT point !

let's not sell that fight short

and, it is likely to be a better fight

I also liked your earlier point about the rounds

and I liked the point by 'taes' about judges being reluctant to score a round even..... it happens too infrequently now.

[Shadoww702]

LOL!!! This fight is so close, that I basically disagree with you entire scorecard. But completely understand and have no objections to your final tally. I had Ward winning the 3rd. But, I think a lot of his good work went unnoticed or misinterpreted as "survival." I also gave him the 5th, which was one of the few "clear rounds" IMO. To me, the 9th is more controversal than the 10th. I think Kovalev putting out such a high workrate in the 10th, people kinda interpreted it as him "making a stand" at the comebacking Ward. But I also have Kovalev the 9th in what is a pretty concensus Ward round. So who knows. Gotta do it again.

That's how I feel. I have no problem either way on who won. As long as I don't hear "robbery" in the same sentence. Good Lord Dougie Fiescher from Ring Magainze is going on a CRUSADE to discredit Ward's WIN. Dude trollin101 and doesn't even know it.

[aboutfkntime]

An independent boxing commission of 5 or 7 judges from foreign countries must be established to rule within 2 days on controversial decisions. Boxers deserve at least moral justice. It is really bad and disrespectful to rob somebody of his hard work and the health risks he puts in a fight. (Kovalev won the fight. On that very day Perez was robbed too by the judges.)

not a bad idea - I have heard that mooted before - the problem is, it detracts from the event/occasion

then again, the fight drama spills out for another few days

not convinced that is a bad idea, and not convinced it wouldn't work, but I can see why they are reluctant to use it

you make a great point..... I am a Ward guy, but (admittedly, in hindsight) the best result from that fight would have been a draw..... that way Sergey gets to keep his titles, Ward gets to keep his undefeated record, and we still get to see a rematch

it is hard to view Kovalev as a loser following that fight, but then again it is hard to think of him as a clear winner either

thought provoking post ^^

[aboutfkntime]

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That isn't fantasy!

There was a time when no points verdicts were given if a fight went the distance, and the winner was found by reading reports written by boxing scribes present at ringside, which would be published in newspapers the following morning.

Lol. Imagine watching a close fight like Kovalev/Ward, or a historic match like Floyd/Manny, and not knowing who would be declared the winner till the day after the fight.

that is true, good point

but there was also a time when there were no limit on how many rounds you could fight, or for how long each round would last.....

I agree with your bottom line, it would likely detract from the event/occasion too much