Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Coach Has No Issue With Ward-Kovalev Outcome

[Shadoww702]

I've watched it twice, and second viewing I had it closer than when I watched it live .. 7 - 5 to Kovalev. I didn't record the rounds, just scored them and kept tally in my head.

7 - 5 is too close for me to be screaming robbery. Like I said, it's just the 10th round that sticks in my craw. And the fact that, if the judges had given it to Kovalev, he would have won the fight on their cards.

Then your scorecard matches most. Yeah the 10th round was BS. But I could probably see giving round 5 (Not for sure maybe 4) for Ward. I find it insane to give Ward more than 2 rounds in the first 6. In fact more than 1 I would question a lil. Rounds 7 - 12 were mostly Ward except 10. Too close of a fight and it demands a rematch.

[LoveWisdomTruth]

An independent boxing commission of 5 or 7 judges from foreign countries must be esta

An independent boxing commission of 5 or 7 judges from foreign countries must be established to rule within 2 days on controversial decisions. Boxers deserve at least moral justice. It is really bad and disrespectful to rob somebody of his hard work and the health risks he puts in a fight. (Kovalev won the fight. On that very day Perez was robbed too by the judges.)

[angkag]

The boxing judging system predates todays technology, and you just have to wonder if there is a better way given today's options. Having just 3 judges is begging for trouble - why not expand that number for title fights ?

(1) you can given todays technology
(2) watching from a remote location reduces the inherent bias that can affect judges from the home crowd cheering one side over the other
(3) watching from remote locations means you can pick from a much bigger pool of judges (so exclude judges whose nationality is the same as one of the boxers - and NO TEXAN JUDGES WITH TEXAN BOXERS), and also have more judges score the fight
(4) a larger judging panel reduces the likelihood of controversies

Sooo easy to do, and so many advantages, yet boxing clings to a system that has proved itself not to work over and over again (even soccer is starting to wilt to using technology given the ref-only system has also proven itself not to work).

ok pure fantasy time - just imagine, the result is decided by the results sent in by 35 selected boxing writers from around the world, all watching live from where ever they are (result available just as quickly as today, if not quicker - I bet I could design a system where, except for fights which depend on the result of the last round, the result is usually known the moment the final bell goes). Every one of the boxing writers will be justifying their scoring in their articles the next day- no mysteries, no controversies as to who winners are any more, just the chance to disagree with a bunch of people who's job it is to know boxing and to defend their opinions.

[taes]

you're defo right in that the scoring system needs changed. however, you're also right in that everything moves at a snail's pace, so not in my lifetime. better just get used to the sleight of hand on those scorecards.

[Godsfly]

I honestly don't understand how you could give the 10th to Ward, when Kovalev was coming forward, throwing more, and clearly - to me - landing more punches.

Whether there is a rematch or not doesn't alter my opinion of that 10th round.

i gave the 10th to ward along with many others scoring the fight. i liked wards clearer work. snapping kovalovs head back with the jab body work. theres no way in hell kovalov won that 10nth round from what I saw but to each it's own.

also the 12th was a toss up but i just gave it to kovalov which had my card with ward up by 1. no where NEAR a robbery. we have a rematch that i am really looking forward to (can't wait) and people (like the clown that replied to me above) don't even actually care about the rematch. saying that ward just has to stand up to get the fight and he's won it. as if this fight was a blow out for kovalov? you see why people are laughing at the idiots? you see why people don't take this serious anymore after re watching the fight? because you are dealing with those who are biased that are hell bent on twisting this fight into a robbery which it was NEVER even close to a robbery. if anything there should be more heat on kovalov for just getting lost after 3 rounds. stepping off the gas almost entirely at times......ward is gonna come stronger in a rematch & he's gonna be hell bent on not giving kovalov any knock down extra point. kovalov should focus on being better down the stretch rather then listen to nerd agenda lies telling him how much he was robbed......

[Synbad]

Funny how everyone says 'I had it even so I am cool with the score!' till it is their fighter on the end of a gift decision just so that country can still have an undefeated professional gold medalist. SMDH

[kafkod]

The boxing judging system predates todays technology, and you just have to wonder if there is a better way given today's options. Having just 3 judges is begging for trouble - why not expand that number for title fights ?

(1) you can given todays technology
(2) watching from a remote location reduces the inherent bias that can affect judges from the home crowd cheering one side over the other
(3) watching from remote locations means you can pick from a much bigger pool of judges (so exclude judges whose nationality is the same as one of the boxers - and NO TEXAN JUDGES WITH TEXAN BOXERS), and also have more judges score the fight
(4) a larger judging panel reduces the likelihood of controversies

Sooo easy to do, and so many advantages, yet boxing clings to a system that has proved itself not to work over and over again (even soccer is starting to wilt to using technology given the ref-only system has also proven itself not to work).

ok pure fantasy time - just imagine, the result is decided by the results sent in by 35 selected boxing writers from around the world, all watching live from where ever they are (result available just as quickly as today, if not quicker - I bet I could design a system where, except for fights which depend on the result of the last round, the result is usually known the moment the final bell goes). Every one of the boxing writers will be justifying their scoring in their articles the next day- no mysteries, no controversies as to who winners are any more, just the chance to disagree with a bunch of people who's job it is to know boxing and to defend their opinions.

That isn't fantasy!

There was a time when no points verdicts were given if a fight went the distance, and the winner was found by reading reports written by boxing scribes present at ringside, which would be published in newspapers the following morning.

Lol. Imagine watching a close fight like Kovalev/Ward, or a historic match like Floyd/Manny, and not knowing who would be declared the winner till the day after the fight.

[kafkod]

i gave the 10th to ward along with many others scoring the fight. i liked wards clearer work. snapping kovalovs head back with the jab body work. theres no way in hell kovalov won that 10nth round from what I saw but to each it's own.

You mean you like Ward, period.

[hitking]

i gave the 10th to ward along with many others scoring the fight. i liked wards clearer work. snapping kovalovs head back with the jab body work. theres no way in hell kovalov won that 10nth round from what I saw but to each it's own.

also the 12th was a toss up but i just gave it to kovalov which had my card with ward up by 1. no where NEAR a robbery. we have a rematch that i am really looking forward to (can't wait) and people (like the clown that replied to me above) don't even actually care about the rematch. saying that ward just has to stand up to get the fight and he's won it. as if this fight was a blow out for kovalov? you see why people are laughing at the idiots? you see why people don't take this serious anymore after re watching the fight? because you are dealing with those who are biased that are hell bent on twisting this fight into a robbery which it was NEVER even close to a robbery. if anything there should be more heat on kovalov for just getting lost after 3 rounds. stepping off the gas almost entirely at times......ward is gonna come stronger in a rematch & he's gonna be hell bent on not giving kovalov any knock down extra point. kovalov should focus on being better down the stretch rather then listen to nerd agenda lies telling him how much he was robbed......

I gave the 10th to Ward as well. It was the most exciting round of the fight. But I definitely favored Ward's clean shots over Kovalev's aggression.

All the Kovalev folks seem stuck on the 10th. To me, the 9th is far more controversal. It followed the pattern of Kovalev coming forward, and Ward circling. But to me, Kovalev not only outworked, he landed the cleaner shots in that round. And all the Kovalev folks seem to concede the 9th to Ward. To me, that was a Kovalev round. And like you, I thought the 10th was a pretty clear Ward round.

[hitking]

Exactly! I gave the 1st 6 rounds to Kov. And round 10. Minus the KD for 115-112 Kov.

Ward looked a lil more ****** up afterwards but Kov. Looked very tired. Sht! He almost fell down and also need the ropes to hold him another time late in the fight. Honestly if that fight went another 2-3 rounds Ward would of probably KO'd him.

LOL!!! This fight is so close, that I basically disagree with you entire scorecard. But completely understand and have no objections to your final tally. I had Ward winning the 3rd. But, I think a lot of his good work went unnoticed or misinterpreted as "survival." I also gave him the 5th, which was one of the few "clear rounds" IMO. To me, the 9th is more controversal than the 10th. I think Kovalev putting out such a high workrate in the 10th, people kinda interpreted it as him "making a stand" at the comebacking Ward. But I also have Kovalev the 9th in what is a pretty concensus Ward round. So who knows. Gotta do it again.