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  • Redd Foxx
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    #11
    Oh
    my
    god.....
    "Andre recovered from a shaky start and won the fight" -Abel Sanchez

    Mind=blown

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    • Redd Foxx
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      #12
      Originally posted by taes
      My thoughts exactly. If it is that tight then why would you give it to the challenger?? There's a natural bias in here. Don't know whether it's a conscious or subconscious bias, but for KK it's got to feel ****.
      Because you're scoring rounds. You don't look back and say, "That was a close fight, I need to switch some of these rounds back to the champ."
      I keep seeing people say this "beat the champ" sentiment but the last thing we need in boxing is people not scoring rounds fairly because they have a champ bias.

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      • taes
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        #13
        I agree, you shouldn't go changing decisions at the end of a fight giving a bias towards the current "champ" but you also shouldn't have scored it for the challenger in the first place if there was any doubt. It seems the 10-10 even round is so infrequently used that it is hard to believe everyone has such clarity on who won each and every round. Some people don't like scoring even rounds. Why not? Surely it's worse to give a round to someone when it is so close you aren't 100% convinced who won the round. Hard to imagine there is a bias towards the champ in this case when he is Russian, against an American in the US.

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        • Vadrigar.
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          #14
          Even Sanchez who has been quite critical of Ward acknowledges it was a very close fight.

          So Kovalev fanboys was Sanchez paid off?

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            #15
            Originally posted by taes
            Anyone see a pattern developing here?! Another headline saying someone has no issue with the outcome and then going on to say that he had KK as the winner. Pretty much everyone says it was a close fight. However, the vast majority, casuals and hardcore, say Kovalev won. Can we now say that Andre Ward has been exposed as not the fighting genius many say he is/was. Great fighter he may be but never in the class of Mayweather et al
            Mayweather and Hopkins are more technically refined than Ward.

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            • hitking
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              #16
              This one is a tough one for the Kovalev fanboys.

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              • hitking
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                #17
                Originally posted by taes
                I agree, you shouldn't go changing decisions at the end of a fight giving a bias towards the current "champ" but you also shouldn't have scored it for the challenger in the first place if there was any doubt. It seems the 10-10 even round is so infrequently used that it is hard to believe everyone has such clarity on who won each and every round. Some people don't like scoring even rounds. Why not? Surely it's worse to give a round to someone when it is so close you aren't 100% convinced who won the round. Hard to imagine there is a bias towards the champ in this case when he is Russian, against an American in the US.
                I've gone back and watched, and there's legitimately 8 rounds that could have been scored even. I've b1tched the last 10-15yrs about professional judges reluctance to score rounds even. I think its s byproduct of there only being 12 rounds in championship fights. Maybe there's more sense of urgency to award every round.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by hitking
                  I've gone back and watched, and there's legitimately 8 rounds that could have been scored even. I've b1tched the last 10-15yrs about professional judges reluctance to score rounds even. I think its s byproduct of there only being 12 rounds in championship fights. Maybe there's more sense of urgency to award every round.
                  I think there was definitely a reasonable case for at least one 10 - 10 on Saturday, I don't see the problem with it myself, if the fighters are too close to split it's not fair to penalise one just because it's somehow frowned upon to score it a draw.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Redd Foxx
                    Oh
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                    god.....
                    "Andre recovered from a shaky start and won the fight" -Abel Sanchez

                    Mind=blown
                    Ha ha ha... I'm surprised there isn't more guys calling BS without even looking what he said, just because it's Sanchez. TBF he did score for Kovalev, but acknowledges the Judges decision. Kinda my take, I felt it was a poor decision but it was close enough that there was doubt, and besides, all the bytching in the world ain't gonna change it to a W.

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                    • Redd Foxx
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
                      Ha ha ha... I'm surprised there isn't more guys calling BS without even looking what he said, just because it's Sanchez. TBF he did score for Kovalev, but acknowledges the Judges decision. Kinda my take, I felt it was a poor decision but it was close enough that there was doubt, and besides, all the bytching in the world ain't gonna change it to a W.
                      True, and the most irritating thing to me is that people are so infatuated with bytching that they're ignoring Loma v Walters!!
                      Such an amazing fight is going down tomorrow and the buzz around here is nothing more than a low hum.
                      Loma and Walters deserve major attention. That's another rare "best fighting the best in their division" fight.

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