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  • ferocity
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    #141
    Originally posted by beezy 14
    I never stated that he was ahead of any all time great just that he would have a legacy.That's why the thread is Winky's legacy so we agree he has 1, I'm honest about it the only thing I ever looked back at was my collection of fights because you were acting like I hadn't seen many of his fights. And it should be that Vargas win but they robbed him so probaly the Bronco fights or the Hernandez bout. And I agree if PBF was to fight a bumm for less then 8 million you could say he ducked him, but until then you can't say he did. His last fight wasn't a bumm I think it challenged PBF more then Baldomir correct? I only stated that I don't think elite fighters aren't scared of him, that's not rediculous when possible opponents are making more money in their next fight's.(except Hatton)And that's because he just moved up.

    as i said, every fighter leaves a legacy, and i do belive mayweather ducked margarito so now he can go at delahoya

    and instead of judah who lost his last he could have taken on margarto but didn't, only reason they went ahead with the ppv is because they saw the number morales v. pacquiao did after moarles had a lose going into the pacquiao fight

    and we have a difference of opinon, i think vargas edged out the win against the vertern in winky, vargas being the youngest champion to EVER win a world title at jr. middleweight. then he went on to beat quarty which holds more water then the winky win

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    • beezy 14
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      #142
      O I respect that opinion on the Winky fight so I probably shoulden't say robbery but I do as do others think Winky won that fight.But do you agree that PBF could get more money and fame and attention ETC. by fighting Zab? We know it's a business and that PBF cares about money and people not saying who was he .I do realize if any welter beats Margorito it's a good win but you know how some ppl(not you) would say he ducked Judah cuz he's as fast as Mayweather blah blah. And then they would say who did Margorito beat and try to discredit the win if he did win. You don't think that Oscar is a good test at 154? Besides the fact that he'd make twice as much, I'll admit PBF loves money but that doesn't mean he's ducking Margorito. What fighter would take half the money with less praise if he were to win? You know that Margorito's good but not a household name with the public.

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        #143
        Originally posted by beezy 14
        O I respect that opinion on the Winky fight so I probably shoulden't say robbery but I do as do others think Winky won that fight.But do you agree that PBF could get more money and fame and attention ETC. by fighting Zab? We know it's a business and that PBF cares about money and people not saying who was he .I do realize if any welter beats Margorito it's a good win but you know how some ppl(not you) would say he ducked Judah cuz he's as fast as Mayweather blah blah. And then they would say who did Margorito beat and try to discredit the win if he did win. You don't think that Oscar is a good test at 154? Besides the fact that he'd make twice as much, I'll admit PBF loves money but that doesn't mean he's ducking Margorito. What fighter would take half the money with less praise if he were to win? You know that Margorito's good but not a household name with the public.
        You aren't going to win. Just stop now and save yourself the time.

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        • Sir_Jose
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          #144
          Originally posted by beezy 14
          When he's all done where do you think he'll rate all - time? Curious, he'll prob get judged unfairly because his style and people not fighting him for many years. But I think should get his respect when it's all said and done.

          Perfect example of a guy in the right place at the right time. He caught Tito and Mosley when they were well past there primes.

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          • beezy 14
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            #145
            I agree somewhat but he's different from somebody like Calzaghe who didn't wanna leave home,he was ducked for years because of his akward style. I just don't think he should be punished for that Sir Jose ,but agree to an extent.

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            • ferocity
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              #146
              Originally posted by beezy 14
              O I respect that opinion on the Winky fight so I probably shoulden't say robbery but I do as do others think Winky won that fight.But do you agree that PBF could get more money and fame and attention ETC. by fighting Zab? We know it's a business and that PBF cares about money and people not saying who was he .I do realize if any welter beats Margorito it's a good win but you know how some ppl(not you) would say he ducked Judah cuz he's as fast as Mayweather blah blah. And then they would say who did Margorito beat and try to discredit the win if he did win. You don't think that Oscar is a good test at 154? Besides the fact that he'd make twice as much, I'll admit PBF loves money but that doesn't mean he's ducking Margorito. What fighter would take half the money with less praise if he were to win? You know that Margorito's good but not a household name with the public.
              i understand mayweather taking the delahoya fight, **** i'd do the same, but im just saying....basicly floyd if he wanted to could have already fought margarito but margarito is to dangerous, and yes, to be honest delahoya is still a dangerous fighter for anybody including mayweather

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              • beezy 14
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                #147
                There , see that's not so hard the only thing we really disagree on is that he ducked Margorito. And you understand why he's taking that Oscar fight,I know he could've took it just like Mosley could come down and fight him. But Mosley prob thinks the same that's why he's doing Vargas/Mosley 2 after the 1 fight ppv numbers did well. So I just think they're a product of today's times and money hungry, I can't hate them I would to. Nice debating with you tho,I see you and rockin get'n it on in that other thread!LOL

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by Sir_Jose
                  Perfect example of a guy in the right place at the right time. He caught Tito and Mosley when they were well past there primes.
                  You're somewhat right, but it was the two who didn't want anything to do w/ Winky! I and the rest of the hardcore fans are still waiting on De La Joto. What exactly is De La Joto waiting for? Oh I remember now, wait for Winky to get drop how Mosley and Tito got dropped and then go after the fighter.

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