Winky's legacy?

[ferocity]

Exposed what are you talking about I been liking Winky for years I also got that Soliman fight . I stated to you in a earlier post about the Vazquez fight and that Winky got knocked down numerous times etc. and showed great heart but lost. I said the candelo because it was a fight in my collection, I told you I have the Frazier fight where he got the vacant belt. That's not getting exposed I noticed your biased towards Latino fighters. The difference is that I don't ignore hispnic fighters achievments and legacy. That's what your doing to Winky but yey making excuses for Margorito having no big wins yet and Tito getting exposed. Don't be biased like that I'm not towards latin fighters.

LISTEN and ANSWER should be easy, who broadcasted the FRAZIER FIGHT?

And, before MOSLEY, who was winkys biggest win?

[ferocity]

I know there are a couple more fights I have you want me to talk about him leaving his promoter or something. lol Like Winky's a bandwagon person to jump on cut it out! The fight's I have of Winky there on SHOWTIME but maybe his fights before he could get fights in the US might not have been .

EXPOSED! not all of his fights were on SHOWTIME.

[beezy 14]

My bad ferocity yea we'll stay on this thread. But you had said that Leonard was dominated by camacho. I was saying that's not the same comparison as to when Tito got dominated.

[ferocity]

My bad ferocity yea we'll stay on this thread. But you had said that Leonard was dominated by camacho. I was saying that's not the same comparison as to when Tito got dominated.

i only compare it because they were not in their prime

[beezy 14]

I said that all his fights weren't probably on showtime I also stated that I didn't see every single fight but I've seen the majority of his fight's and that's the truth. I never tried to act like I never missed a fight ii's hard not to have missed one. Most of his earlier fight's weren't in this country and he's not the most celebrated fighter. I know I've seen just as many as you or more and don't lie and say you have because you even admitted that you thought they were boring and cut it off etc.

[ferocity]

I said that all his fights weren't probably on showtime I also stated that I didn't see every single fight but I've seen the majority of his fight's and that's the truth. I never tried to act like I never missed a fight ii's hard not to have missed one. Most of his earlier fight's weren't in this country and he's not the most celebrated fighter. I know I've seen just as many as you or more and don't lie and say you have because you even admitted that you thought they were boring and cut it off etc.

of course i've seen winky fight from years back too, to many he was an unknown against vargas i already knew what he brought to the table.

and because i know winkys career i can state my opinion and call it when someone is over-rating him, as you are

as i said the winky-frazier fight was on tv and you can't even tell me who broadcasted his fight...see as i said....and as i've known and suspectd, winky gained many of his fans with his win over trinidad and of course when he beat mosley too

[beezy 14]

I have the frazier fight and stated that to you it was on ESPN 2 if I'm not mistaken if you would debate with me and stop thinking I'm scamming you. I also have that Vargas fight that's how IMO Winky won even tho Vargas ended strong. And I didn't say you had to put him higher then an all time great or any outrageous claim,just that he should have a legacy when he is done especially if he beats Taylor. Come on Ferocity I got love for my brown brothers LOL, you think ppl on this thread are overrating him by saying he'll have a legacy? I actually like alot of the ppl I see that you support (vargas,Margorito,)I just said I disagree that the elite fighters are scared of him at 147(pbf,hatton,mosley if he comes back down, judah etc.) Is that crazy for thinking that?

[ferocity]

I have the frazier fight and stated that to you it was on ESPN 2 if I'm not mistaken if you would debate with me and stop thinking I'm scamming you. I also have that Vargas fight that's how IMO Winky won even tho Vargas ended strong. And I didn't say you had to put him higher then an all time great or any outrageous claim,just that he should have a legacy when he is done especially if he beats Taylor. Come on Ferocity I got love for my brown brothers LOL, you think ppl on this thread are overrating him by saying he'll have a legacy? I actually like alot of the ppl I see that you support (vargas,Margorito,)I just said I disagree that the elite fighters are scared of him at 147(pbf,hatton,mosley if he comes back down, judah etc.) Is that crazy for thinking that?

look, i think every fighter leaves a legacy, every fighter leaves their impresion in the minds of boxing fans, i think highly of antonio diaz, but im sure you probaby don't but i won't say he is an all-time great but did he leave a legacy yes, will winky yes.

and in my opinion if a fighter that is dangerous and is asking you for a fight and you have nothing schedulaed then to me then you are ducking a fighter

and yes, the frazier fight was on espn2 but it took you a long while to answer, maybe you checked the website to find the answer i don't know

but let me ask you, besides mosley and trindad who is winkys biggest win?

[Run]

Ok, Soliman landed more punches, puffed Winky's face up like a cream puff, took the fight to him yet Winky lands because he landed sharper blows yet he's a feather duster and couldn't even stop Soliman in his tracks. Yeah, right.

Dude what fight were you watching?

Winky didin't swell up that bad...and he only had a couple marks above his eyes.

Oh and he beat the daylights out of Soliman. Every punch landed on his gaurd...and he returned fire with hard body punches that had Soliman making facial expressions.

He fought an excellent, and smart fight.



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[beezy 14]

I never stated that he was ahead of any all time great just that he would have a legacy.That's why the thread is Winky's legacy so we agree he has 1, I'm honest about it the only thing I ever looked back at was my collection of fights because you were acting like I hadn't seen many of his fights. And it should be that Vargas win but they robbed him so probaly the Bronco fights or the Hernandez bout. And I agree if PBF was to fight a bumm for less then 8 million you could say he ducked him, but until then you can't say he did. His last fight wasn't a bumm I think it challenged PBF more then Baldomir correct? I only stated that I don't think elite fighters aren't scared of him, that's not rediculous when possible opponents are making more money in their next fight's.(except Hatton)And that's because he just moved up.