Does GGG go undefeated vs a prime Kessler/Froch/Abraham...?

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  • Madison Boxing
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    #41
    Originally posted by BoxingFan85
    I'd think they match up well in styles & may be he would just about edge Froch/Kessler but definitely would do a number on Abraham.. Ward/Calazaghe on the other hand would be his stylistic nightmares & he might as well lose against them..
    yeah i agree calzaghe would be a stylistic nightmare, unless GGG landed that big shot (which he would have a very good chance of doing) i think joe would outbox him with his flurries and movement. WOuld have been an awesome fight though

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    • i got the keys
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      #42
      Originally posted by mick1303
      Did GGG ever pose as a champion at 168? Did he refuse to fight his mandatory there and then run back to 160 with his tail between the legs? Here - your wait is over.
      Did GGG ever when a belt at 168 or a catch-weight in between. No! Because everyone above 160 is too big for GGG. You still can't answer why everyone at 168 is to big for GGG but no one at 154 is too small for GGG. Everyone has to compromise and come to 160. If him and Canelo are the same size why won't he fight at 155? If Canelo can still make 155 then why does he have to come up to fight Govlovkin but Golovkin not go up to fight say...Ward? The excuse was money yet he could make more by fighting Canelo at 155.

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        #43
        TBH I don't think he beats Froch. I'm not sure about the others. I think he would beat Abraham and Kessler could be a toss up.

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          #44
          Originally posted by bigdramashow
          Ok fair enoug about murray, arthur MAY have been past his best a bit at that point but i certainly disagree regarding his earlier losses. Tbh I think naseem is the perfect example, he lost cause he fought a hall of famer marco antonio barrera who was better than him, i dont think he lost cause he was 'past prime'
          Naseem was past prime because he lost his passion and didnt train properly prior to MAB and he had a fight after against a guy he would have ko'd in one,he was past prime i reckon but smaller fighters lose their prime quicker

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            #45
            Originally posted by i got the keys
            Did GGG ever when a belt at 168 or a catch-weight in between. No! Because everyone above 160 is too big for GGG. You still can't answer why everyone at 168 is to big for GGG but no one at 154 is too small for GGG. Everyone has to compromise and come to 160. If him and Canelo are the same size why won't he fight at 155? If Canelo can still make 155 then why does he have to come up to fight Govlovkin but Golovkin not go up to fight say...Ward? The excuse was money yet he could make more by fighting Canelo at 155.
            There are lots of lies in one small paragraph... Golovkin tried to make fights at 168 on more than one ocasion. Froch and Chavez come to mind. He was willing, but they were not. This is one lie. Second - when did Canelo was willing to fight GGG at 155? K2 made statements that 160 is for title unification, but they were ready to negotiate weight for Canelo in non-title fight. But Golden Boy did not want this fight period - not at any weight. Not until several years down the stretch, when GGG will be old.

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              #46
              So we've all came to agreement that GGG beats Abraham and Calzaghe splatters GGG

              Nobody is in agreement who wins out of kessler and froch against GGG

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                #47
                Originally posted by mick1303
                There are lots of lies in one small paragraph... Golovkin tried to make fights at 168 on more than one ocasion. Froch and Chavez come to mind. He was willing, but they were not. This is one lie. Second - when did Canelo was willing to fight GGG at 155? K2 made statements that 160 is for title unification, but they were ready to negotiate weight for Canelo in non-title fight. But Golden Boy did not want this fight period - not at any weight. Not until several years down the stretch, when GGG will be old.
                Why wasn't this offer extended to Ward?

                Golovkin hasn't made any adjustments for anyone outside of fighting at 160.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by i got the keys
                  Why wasn't this offer extended to Ward?

                  Golovkin hasn't made any adjustments for anyone outside of fighting at 160.
                  Are you dense? You just agreed that GGG was willing to fight at 168, and in the next sentence ask - why no adjustments for anyone... Are you reading what you post?

                  Regarding Ward - he didn't want to fight GGG at 168 right away. He just wanted agreement to fight him down the stretch. Ward can't make 168 for several years already... To anyone capable of adding 2 and 2 it was obvious, that Ward just tried to help his stablemate Cotto - to get GGG off his back. He had no intentions to fight GGG at 168.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by mick1303
                    Are you dense? You just agreed that GGG was willing to fight at 168, and in the next sentence ask - why no adjustments for anyone... Are you reading what you post?

                    Regarding Ward - he didn't want to fight GGG at 168 right away. He just wanted agreement to fight him down the stretch. Ward can't make 168 for several years already... To anyone capable of adding 2 and 2 it was obvious, that Ward just tried to help his stablemate Cotto - to get GGG off his back. He had no intentions to fight GGG at 168.
                    That holds as much weight as Chavez saying that he'll come back and KO GGG at 168...all chatter and speculation. We never saw a contract. I don't want to hear about what he's willing to do when we never see anything in writing...
                    Last edited by i got the keys; 10-19-2016, 01:52 PM. Reason: updated

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                      #50
                      Off the top of my head, not Froch.

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