Does GGG go undefeated vs a prime Kessler/Froch/Abraham...?

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  • _Maxi
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    #11
    Why do you compare a MW with Super MW?

    Maybe not, Froch and Kessler were pretty big super MW's. Abraham, yes, I see him beating him.

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    • j0zef
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      #12
      Yes. Abraham reign @ 160 is severely overrated as he's beaten nobody there. Carl Froch can, and has been outboxed (behind in both Groves fights, Dirrell, etc). Kessler would be the toughest fight as he's both strong, tough and skilled.

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      • Madison Boxing
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        jesus some of you are considering abraham having a chance? You know, the abraham who many thought murray beat. The same murray who GGG demolished and you all call a bum. I find it amazing on here that people make out abraham is a good win for ward. The guy is ****ing crap, im sorry to be disrespectful but he really is ****. Paul smith arguably beat him. Dirrell and froch boxed rings around him. But of course, GGG is so **** and overrated that 'king' arthur would give him nightmares, that peek a boo plodding style would be GGG's kryptonite

        And froch and kessler style wise would be bread and butter for golovkin, froch especially with his style. You saw how much trouble groves gave froch (The same groves who admitted GGG pasted him in sparring), so dont tell me froch has some unbreakable chin. 'Swerve golovkin like the plague, punches like a mule' - carl froch. Remember eddie hearn warned him not to fight GGG too.
        But obviously you lot know much more than the fighter and his promoter do, as you are all such great experts.
        Im not saying GGG is unbeatable, at 168 i really dont think so but them two are nice match ups for him. call me crazy but i genuinely think degale or andre dirrell are harder fights for him than them two would have been. Dont really see any 'warrior' type fighters beating someone with GGG's chin and power.

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        • GGG Gloveking
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          #14
          Golovkin by KO...

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            #15
            James Toney would smoke GGG at middleweight,the Hopkins that fought Roy jones would have outboxed and put a beating on GGG

            Kessler would beat up GGG

            Froch would out tough ggg in a tough fight

            Abraham would lose on points

            Prime Sergio Martinez would completely outbox GGG,would look like Pac/Margarito

            Jermain Taylor and Kelly Pavlik would be far from easy fights to predict but they would be considered 50/50 fight in my mind....imagine Jermain Taylor or Pavlik fighting curtis stevens and lemuix in their primes or anyone else on GGGs resume

            Taylor would look like sugar Ray Robinson against GGGs competition in his prime

            Taylors weakness would be his stamina and I see him losing tbh but would be a great fight

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            • LetOutTheCage
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              #16
              He beats all 3 - Froch, Kessler and Abraham were very overrated fighters

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                #17
                Originally posted by LetOutTheCage
                He beats all 3 - Froch, Kessler and Abraham were very overrated fighters
                yes because if a fighter these days has close fights against extremely hard/elite fighters then he is overated....all three of those fighters resumes ****s on GGGs hes done nothing compared to any of them as of yet heck even abraham put his balls on the line in the super six when he never had to

                if a new super six super middle tournament haooened now i doubt ggg enters

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                • New England
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                  i think he probably has the most trouble with kessler's handspeed and athleticism,

                  froch is legimitately slow and easy to hit. jermain taylor had him on the deck FFS. bute, a guy froch outclassed, was knocked into next week by golovkin in the amateurs. the length and size didn't pose a problem in the amateurs, but ithink that's the question mark. froch had super long arms and he was taller than anybody golovkin has fought as far as i know.

                  same with dirrell, who could easily get a nod against froch in their '09 fight, his speed and length didn't give golovkin a ton of problems in the amateurs. timing beats length if the fighter knows how to cut off the ring and use angles, which golovkin does. froch would be reduced to trying to win a firefight after he realises that this is not arthur abraham he's trying to outbox.


                  froch had underrated skills, but he's still not skilled enough to deal with golovkin's offensive polish. he's just too easy to hit, and groves, taylor, kessler, ward, dirrell all proved that.

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                  • Stuntman Mike
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by bigdramashow
                    jesus some of you are considering abraham having a chance? You know, the abraham who many thought murray beat. The same murray who GGG demolished and you all call a bum. I find it amazing on here that people make out abraham is a good win for ward. The guy is ****ing crap, im sorry to be disrespectful but he really is ****. Paul smith arguably beat him. Dirrell and froch boxed rings around him. But of course, GGG is so **** and overrated that 'king' arthur would give him nightmares, that peek a boo plodding style would be GGG's kryptonite

                    And froch and kessler style wise would be bread and butter for golovkin, froch especially with his style. You saw how much trouble groves gave froch (The same groves who admitted GGG pasted him in sparring), so dont tell me froch has some unbreakable chin. 'Swerve golovkin like the plague, punches like a mule' - carl froch. Remember eddie hearn warned him not to fight GGG too.
                    But obviously you lot know much more than the fighter and his promoter do, as you are all such great experts.
                    Im not saying GGG is unbeatable, at 168 i really dont think so but them two are nice match ups for him. call me crazy but i genuinely think degale or andre dirrell are harder fights for him than them two would have been. Dont really see any 'warrior' type fighters beating someone with GGG's chin and power.
                    Abraham might not have a chance but you know you should only take prime for prime into account and being that Abrahams best days were before he knocked out Taylor in the super six you're arguement is just GGG bal squatting until he finishes in your fanboy azz(you'd love a big drama show in your azz)

                    mentioning Murray "beating" Abraham is like saying Tarver beats a prime Roy ,or Calzaghe beats Jones anyday because he beat him when past it

                    by all accounts the faded Abraham having a close fight with Murray only acknowledges he would have spanked him easy in his prime


                    I suppose Wlad in 2010 against Fury would have been the same outcome aswell

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                    • i got the keys
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by _Maxi
                      Why do you compare a MW with Super MW?

                      Maybe not, Froch and Kessler were pretty big super MW's. Abraham, yes, I see him beating him.
                      So what? How can you give him a pass and craaap on Canelo who is fighting at 154 for not coming up? How is it Golovkin isn't too big for canelo but Froch and Kessler are too big for Golovkin? It's a one division difference in both cases....? I'll wait....

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