Comments Thread For: Golovkin-Jacobs: WBA Denies Request To Modify Purse Bid Split

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Scipio2009
    Undisputed Champion
    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
    • Apr 2014
    • 13741
    • 276
    • 64
    • 98,172

    #201
    Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
    There's a coupla significant differences there, though, ain't there? Firstly Haymon got his cut of 100% of the fighter purses instead of just 25%, secondly whoever won out of Quillin and Jacobs PBC had a winner on it's hands. The money wasn't risked so much as invested in building one or the other of the fighters and the PBC brand. If Jacobs loses to GGG - as he's expected to by most - it's hard to see the upside for PBC and Haymon.

    We'll see though. TBH I just wanna see this **** made, a lot of the BS that's being discussed here is just jockeying for position so that we can all start playing the blame game if it falls through.
    It's time to **** or get off of the pot though, imo. If Daniel Jacobs backs out of the fight and drops his belt, what does he do next? The Billy Joe Saunders fight is still there (Saunders' actual profile in the US is about where Liam Sith's profile was, so it's not like it'll make a massive fight, in the US or UK), but that's about it.

    Jacobs could fight Khurtsidze or Andy Lee or Hassan N'Dam, or a host of other fighters, but literally every fight would just be tick-over type fights.

    Golovkin-Jacobs, in essence, is the payoff to that investment; it's a massive fight for Jacobs, a victory in that fight makes Jacobs a star in NYC, and (even in possible defeat) Jacobs is all of 29 years old (with more than enough time to still go with those tick-over fights and get positioned for another shot).

    Comment

    • OnePunch
      Undisputed Champion
      Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
      • May 2008
      • 9113
      • 1,305
      • 772
      • 2,453,131

      #202
      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
      you golov-clowns are fkn ******s

      so..... Hypekin can turn down 10mil from Canelo, no problem..... but, Jacobs should just roll over and take 25%..... ?
      hey ******, 1 fight is over a year away, and the other is in 8 weeks.

      This stuff isnt that compicated..........

      Comment

      • aboutfkntime
        Undisputed Champion
        Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
        • Feb 2015
        • 47370
        • 1,631
        • 3,563
        • 391,308

        #203
        Originally posted by BattlingNelson
        Why would he expect more than what is clearly stated in the WBA rules?

        because 25% is not enough for such a dangerous fight

        why does Hypekin deserve more than 10mil for Canelo?

        Mr 97k is nobody..... he has done absolutely nothing other than beat Murray, beat Lemieux, and tell lies.

        Comment

        • aboutfkntime
          Undisputed Champion
          Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
          • Feb 2015
          • 47370
          • 1,631
          • 3,563
          • 391,308

          #204
          Originally posted by OnePunch
          hey ******, 1 fight is over a year away, and the other is in 8 weeks.

          This stuff isnt that compicated..........

          it is over a year away because that pacifist Golovkin b1tched out, AGAIN

          Comment

          • OnePunch
            Undisputed Champion
            Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
            • May 2008
            • 9113
            • 1,305
            • 772
            • 2,453,131

            #205
            Originally posted by aboutfkntime
            Yep, they should have had the experience/foresight to see that Team Bull**** (as usual) refused to negotiate in good faith in order to benefit their over-hyped fighter, and ruled accordingly.

            they just ruled in favor of the manipulators who were unwilling to negotiate in good faith

            Gennady's mother did not even wait until the negotiation period had ended before requesting an early purse-bid...... so everyone can clearly see what is happening.

            But as usual, you fanboy f@gs couldn't care less if it benefits your hypejob.

            unless you were present at the negotiations (which I doubt you were unless it was only for 60 seconds when you delivered their pizzas), then you havent the slightest idea what was or wasnt negotiated............

            Comment

            • BattlingNelson
              Mod a Phukka
              Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
              • Mar 2008
              • 29881
              • 3,254
              • 3,198
              • 286,536

              #206
              Originally posted by aboutfkntime
              because 25% is not enough for such a dangerous fight

              why does Hypekin deserve more than 10mil for Canelo?

              Mr 97k is nobody..... he has done absolutely nothing other than beat Murray, beat Lemieux, and tell lies.
              Jacobs knew the split and carried on so you do not have a point.

              What do you think of Jacobs if he walks away now robbing us of the fight?

              Comment

              • OnePunch
                Undisputed Champion
                Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                • May 2008
                • 9113
                • 1,305
                • 772
                • 2,453,131

                #207
                Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                because 25% is not enough for such a dangerous fight

                why does Hypekin deserve more than 10mil for Canelo?

                Mr 97k is nobody..... he has done absolutely nothing other than beat Murray, beat Lemieux, and tell lies.
                it almost seems that you are arguing with yourself here.......

                Comment

                • BlakBread904
                  Floridian Dunderhead
                  Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 1702
                  • 134
                  • 888
                  • 17,201

                  #208
                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                  Yep, they should have had the experience/foresight to see that Team Bull**** (as usual) refused to negotiate in good faith in order to benefit their over-hyped fighter, and ruled accordingly.

                  they just ruled in favor of the manipulators who were unwilling to negotiate in good faith

                  Gennady's mother did not even wait until the negotiation period had ended before requesting an early purse-bid...... so everyone can clearly see what is happening.

                  But as usual, you fanboy f@gs couldn't care less if it benefits your hypejob.
                  I feel sorry for anyone who buys into your schtick...or are you that dumb?

                  Anyway....I predicted Danny would vacate months ago. getting the same payday vs GGG as you got vs Quillin would make a less-confident man think twice HAHA

                  I want to see this fight but not because of Danny Jacobs, I don't see him lasting past 5 rounds.

                  Comment

                  • Scipio2009
                    Undisputed Champion
                    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 13741
                    • 276
                    • 64
                    • 98,172

                    #209
                    Originally posted by OnePunch
                    I think a bid in the neighborhood of $4.5 million to $5.5 million is probably "safe", in that the promoter likely would at least break even on the event. Thats assuming its an HBO date. If it went to PPV they might could squeeze another million out of it, but anything north of that its High Risk City......
                    Maybe I'm wrong, but Stephen Espinoza is making it appear as if he's going to be willing to put more money behind the fight for Lou DiBella than HBO seems willing to put behind the fight for K2.

                    The bid will likely come down to perceived "pain points"; if Lou DiBella is willing to risk some money in the short term (with the DiBella/Haymon relationship being what it is, and a ton of TV-ready fighters coming along ready for the New York market), how is K2 going to respond to $6m being bid, with no deference paid to HBO?

                    K2 may not care all that much about the fight, but the fight is basically being set as Jacobs' megafight (Brooklyn kid, fighting back from his illness to be the #2 MW on the planet, taking on the #1 fighter at the weight, in Brooklyn).

                    Bids are going to be interesting

                    Comment

                    • Scipio2009
                      Undisputed Champion
                      Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 13741
                      • 276
                      • 64
                      • 98,172

                      #210
                      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                      I get your point, but I agree with Pigeons..... Jacobs will likely vacate because Team Businessman will not negotiate in good faith, preferring to screw him at the purse-bid.
                      Daniel Jacobs, almost literally, has near no leverage at the weight class without having a piece of the world title; Jacobs tried to get Saunders to fight, and that came up bust anyway.

                      Jacobs vacates the belt, yet who does he realistic have a chance to fight in his next three bouts?

                      For a fight on regular HBO, there's been no indication anywhere that Jacobs has been offered $1m, let alone Golovkin being willing to give up a piece of his seemingly guaranteed $2m to help make the numbers work.

                      If the money doesn't show up in negotiation, Jacobs' camp will look for the money at the bids.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP