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  • Tom Cruise
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    #271
    Originally posted by SemiGreat
    good names of the day or good names regardless of the era ? some guys are legit ATGs and transcend all eras. some/MOST are not. having so many bums and compilers around made it possible for those guys to fight once a month and pad their records.

    i still say may shouldnt be compared to guys who have 80+ fights.
    I believe Olson, Harold Johnson, Maxim, Bivins, Williams, Cocoa Kid, Marshall are in the hall of fame. Doc Williams, Chase and Lytell were a part of the 'Black Murderers Row' but not in the Hall as far as i can see, though they could well be based on modern induction criteria.

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    • Tom Cruise
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      #272
      Why shouldnt we compare May to guys who had 80+ fights? Its not like the guys with hundreds of fights get loads of credit for stay busy fights is it? They get credit for beating great fighters in or around their prime, sometimes multiple times.

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        #273
        Originally posted by Tom Cruise
        Why shouldnt we compare May to guys who had 80+ fights? Its not like the guys with hundreds of fights get loads of credit for stay busy fights is it? They get credit for beating great fighters in or around their prime, sometimes multiple times.
        Thats 100% true,this fights of Jake Lamotta vs SRR are crazy both in primes and fought 4 times?That was brutal fights.

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          #274
          Originally posted by Tom Cruise
          I believe Olson, Harold Johnson, Maxim, Bivins, Williams, Cocoa Kid, Marshall are in the hall of fame. Doc Williams, Chase and Lytell were a part of the 'Black Murderers Row' but not in the Hall as far as i can see, though they could well be based on modern induction criteria.
          im just skeptical of an era where guys fought so often. no way were there so many quality guys. they couldnt maintain a career (health wise) fighting quality guys every other fight. as i pointed out, had to be a ton of compilers beating up bums and/or other compilers.


          Originally posted by Tom Cruise
          Why shouldnt we compare May to guys who had 80+ fights? Its not like the guys with hundreds of fights get loads of credit for stay busy fights is it? They get credit for beating great fighters in or around their prime, sometimes multiple times.
          people fawn over 80+ wins and a ton of kos.

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            #275
            Originally posted by LacedUp
            Why would I exclude the WBO? I counted 18 wins. But you said 10, so then point is you were dead wrong.

            lol Pacquiao never had a mark on his back? Not sure what world you are living in, but he's been the money fight for years.

            They are both 4 times lineal champion, so what the flying F are you talking about? Or are you going to mention Lineal defenses as well?

            Yeah you wouldn't see Manny having a better resume. We can see why. You are exaggerating everything.

            We all know what you guys are called.
            i said he won titles, he didnt defend them as much as floyd, was i wrong?

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            • 1g5a22
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              #276
              FMJ doesnt even have a better set of wins than some of his opposition. Just because he has ageing GREAT names on his resume doesn't mean you can qualify those wins as binding! Otherwise Héctor Camacho would be one of the greatest of all time! Beat Duran & SRL. Floyd fans are pathetic.. Just like your hero cashing in on a name.

              Best set of declining greats ever though probably. Terry Norris & Tim Bradley you rule too LOL

              Is the OP saying FMJ has the best resume of all time?
              Last edited by 1g5a22; 10-14-2016, 09:25 AM.

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              • Tom Cruise
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                #277
                Originally posted by SemiGreat
                im just skeptical of an era where guys fought so often. no way were there so many quality guys. they couldnt maintain a career (health wise) fighting quality guys every other fight. as i pointed out, had to be a ton of compilers beating up bums and/or other compilers.
                Yeah they obviously werent fighting ATG's every fight. But over a career the top guys (the guys who get talked about as being some of the greatest ever) certainly fought more top top level fighters than modern ones do. IIRC Sugar Ray Robinson fought more lineal, singular champions than Floyd fought alphabet belt holders.

                Thats not even taking into account the solid contenders who come in and out of the rankings without achieving greatness (the likes of Maidana or Ortiz on FMjr's resume). Good wins that get forgotten by history and end up just part of the statistics rather than being considered the solid wins they are.

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                  #278
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  Yeah he was such a nice fighter. Great amateur background and a great trainer in Futch. The wins over Toney are great, I just don't think it's enough. I remember being legit worried Roy was gonna catch another L in the rematch
                  Me too man.

                  Montel seemed to have his timing and just a bad style for him. I remember watching the first fight and being like woah, Roy is in trouble here! Montel took his left hook away so well and timed beautiful right hands.

                  The performance in the rematch was outstanding.

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                    #279
                    Originally posted by Tom Cruise
                    I believe Olson, Harold Johnson, Maxim, Bivins, Williams, Cocoa Kid, Marshall are in the hall of fame. Doc Williams, Chase and Lytell were a part of the 'Black Murderers Row' but not in the Hall as far as i can see, though they could well be based on modern induction criteria.
                    Harold Johnson is an ATG

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                    • Tom Cruise
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                      #280
                      Originally posted by Canelo and GGG
                      Thats 100% true,this fights of Jake Lamotta vs SRR are crazy both in primes and fought 4 times?That was brutal fights.
                      6 times I think. From reading about the fights, Robinson came out 5-1 winner in the series but never really looked dominant until the 'St Valentines Day Massacre'.

                      Robinson had fought Jake Lamotta (x4), Sammy Angott (x2), Fritzie Zivic (x2) and Henry Armstrong before he had even won his first title Admittedly from what I have read he badly ducked early on, but still that was only 4 years of being a pro.

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