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  • LacedUp
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    #241
    Originally posted by BM dnobagaV
    #1 vs #2 fight. Pacquiao beat Bradley.

    Lineal & Ring are not the same entity.. Sadly enough
    So lineage according to who?

    Pacquiao and Bradley were not #1 and #2 so struggling to see how it could be for the lineal title and also who granted it lineage.

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      #242
      Originally posted by BM dnobagaV
      #1 vs #2 fight. Pacquiao beat Bradley.

      Lineal & Ring are not the same entity.. Sadly enough
      If a vacant lineage is created it has to be the universal #1 vs the universal #2 that is not the case here.

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        #243
        Originally posted by LacedUp
        So lineage according to who?

        Pacquiao and Bradley were not #1 and #2 so struggling to see how it could be for the lineal title and also who granted it lineage.
        CyberBoxing and Transitional boxing recognized it...so **** it..i really have no beef with it as after Floyd left those were the most proven ww's

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          #244
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          Shot I don't know, atleast arguably. Looked like absolute **** against Toney.

          Hadn't been Champion in almost 2 years by that point. Oscar and Mosley were reigning champions and in Mosley's case he was #1 WW and #3 P4P coming off arguably the best win of his career.

          Oscar I guess is comparable but Oscar looked more he had more in the tank against Mayorga than McCallum did against Ali Saidi.

          As for the fight, Roy carried him. Was in first gear the whole time maybe switched off once or twice.

          I agree with you though that I'd probably lean on Roy in regards to the comparison with Floyd.
          Yeah that's true. But the same with Mosley, after Margarito we never saw Mosley again maybe aside from the first two rounds against Floyd.

          True he actually did look good in that fight, and also in the Floyd fight. It was quite close.

          I think Floyd has more "name" wins than Roy, but in terms of actual substance I feel Roy slightly edges him and his accomplishments were better with going from MW to HW and actually if I'm not mistaken, I do think Roy started at 154.

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            #245
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza
            If a vacant lineage is created it has to be the universal #1 vs the universal #2 that is not the case here.
            I agree after Floyd left the division was and is still a mess but Manny and Bradley were the 2 most proven at the time..but IMO the lineage is vacant but i am just a guy on the internet

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              #246
              Originally posted by LacedUp
              Yeah that's true. But the same with Mosley, after Margarito we never saw Mosley again maybe aside from the first two rounds against Floyd.

              True he actually did look good in that fight, and also in the Floyd fight. It was quite close.

              I think Floyd has more "name" wins than Roy, but in terms of actual substance I feel Roy slightly edges him and his accomplishments were better with going from MW to HW and actually if I'm not mistaken, I do think Roy started at 154.
              But for all that weight jumping Roy was never lineal at any weight

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                #247
                Originally posted by don larryx
                I agree after Floyd left the division was and is still a mess but Manny and Bradley were the 2 most proven at the time..but IMO the lineage is vacant but i am just a guy on the internet
                We all are

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                  #248
                  Originally posted by don larryx
                  CyberBoxing and Transitional boxing recognized it...so **** it..i really have no beef with it as after Floyd left those were the most proven ww's
                  Don't see how those two could be considered genuine #1 and #2. None were title holders and both coming off losses.

                  No reason that it should be considered lineage whatsoever.

                  Two actual top contenders should emerge before lineage is one the line.

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                    #249
                    Originally posted by don larryx
                    But for all that weight jumping Roy was never lineal at any weight
                    Through formality only. He was considered the LHW champion for years.

                    Pretty much same as when Mike Tyson was undisputed HW champ but Spinks was lineal champ. Or when Briggs was lineal champ.

                    Doesn't always mean a great deal.

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                      #250
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      If a vacant lineage is created it has to be the universal #1 vs the universal #2 that is not the case here.
                      Exactly my thoughts.

                      Very weird.

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