Comments Thread For: Golovkin, Jacobs Running Out of Time - Purse Bid Looms

[BattlingNelson]

You are right in theory. Your point about EPO, while correct, doesn't really apply here as those are rules about competition.

My point is regarding this fight if they were to break their rules regarding splits to make this fight happen I see that as a good thing. do you agree?

You seem to be saying you'd rather they stick to their rules even if those rules make it more difficult to finalize this particular fight. Am I correct?

I never want a sanctioning body to change rules regarding competition. I have no problem going around rules regarding compensation/purse bids if its done to make a fight that fans want.

So you are saying that, even though WBA is not a promotor, should break their rules in order to make the fight happen. What if one of the fighters wanted to have smaller gloves than stipulated in WBA rules? I guess that you would say that that would be ok as well in order to make the fight happen right?

That would be how it goes. Whenever a fighter doesnt like a particular rule, he should just protest to the WBA and they would follow him in order to make the fight.

I am sorry, but I think that's pretty ****** idea.

[daggum]

Look at that. And still no quote or video... Just admit that you were trolling and making schit up like you always do so we could move on.

would you fight ggg for 5 million........doesn't even say yes i would. keep ignoring everything. only way you can defend that ducking clown.

[kafkod]

yes it does it still applies. or fighter gets stripped.

Earlier this year I posted a comment saying that GGG would get 45% of the purse from Canelo on a purse bid because he was the interim champ. A couple of guys responded to that telling me the WBC had amended their rules and the interim champ now got the same split as a straightforward mando. I checked the WBC website and found out that what they were saying was correct. You can do the same, if you like, or you can carry on believing that that the split would have been 55/45, that's up to you.

[daggum]

It would in Jacobs and his team best interest to not let this go to purse bid!

he's almost certainly getting better than 70-30 right now given how generous k2 has been with ggg opponents but the problem is he's not getting the more than 3 million that he's demanding. obv its impossible to give him that much unless ggg takes a huge cut and its a 50-50 split at best for ggg. thats not very reasonable to expect sicne jacobs isn't even close to ggg's popularity but i guess ggg haters expect him to do that. i guess ggg didn't want to fight is what they say as they ignore how jacobs wanted crazy money and they expected k2 to lose millions since their hero haymon does it all the time.

[The Big Dunn]

A fight is either makeable or it isnt, but wanting to see a split changed by a sanctioning body instead of being freely negotiated really just depends on which team you are siding with. Had GGG proposed the WBC changed their purse bid split re: Canelo this board would have went insane.

While you make a fair point, even though I don't agree with it, all I am suggesting is its a good thing if it helps get the fight made. I am not suggesting this be done for every fight.

I don't think its fair to compare GGG with Floyd and Canelo. GGG sells out relatively low priced seats, he surely doesn't provide cities with the huge financial gains that Floyd did. I doubt he makes the financial impact Canelo does either.

[daggum]

only 2 ways this fight gets made

1. k2 is willing to lose a lot of money

2. jacobs changes his demands

which is the more reasonable/logical option? obv haymon fanboys would say lose money since they think thats the point of boxing but its actually option 2

[Ake-Dawg]

Smart? Should the WBA agree, which I highly doubt, it would make an ugly precedent that their rules are negotiable. See?

Ugly precedent? How is it ugly? They have complete autonomy. It's not breaking a rule if your rules say you can change certain parameters if it suits the situation. And who says they can't decide that the split between super and regular champion should be 60-40 from now on?

Jacobs is asking for the purse bid split to be changed to AVOID THE PURSE BID! The goal is always free negotiations, but Jacobs camp feels that they aren't as free due to the purse bid mandated split, which the WBA is free to change.

Why should Jacobs get less than Lemieux in a bigger and better fight?

[BattlingNelson]

Ugly precedent? How is it ugly? They have complete autonomy. It's not breaking a rule if your rules say you can change certain parameters if it suits the situation. And who says they can't decide that the split between super and regular champion should be 60-40 from now on?

Jacobs is asking for the purse bid split to be changed to AVOID THE PURSE BID! The goal is always free negotiations, but Jacobs camp feels that they aren't as free due to the purse bid mandated split, which the WBA is free to change.

Why should Jacobs get less than Lemieux in a bigger and better fight?

Read post 161. It was directed at The Big Dunn, but applies to your reasoning as well.

[The Big Dunn]

So you are saying that, even though WBA is not a promotor, should break their rules in order to make the fight happen. What if one of the fighters wanted to have smaller gloves than stipulated in WBA rules? I guess that you would say that that would be ok as well in order to make the fight happen right?

That would be how it goes. Whenever a fighter doesnt like a particular rule, he should just protest to the WBA and they would follow him in order to make the fight.

I am sorry, but I think that's pretty ****** idea.

Please answer my questions.

No, I already stated rules involving competition should not be changed. Glove size would fall under that umbrella.

I am not advocating what you posted here and I stated this specifically so i can't understand why you are confused and why you will not answer the questions I asked.

It feels like your real issue is GGG making a concession to get the fight made. I get that since you are a GGG fan. Sometimes you have to give a little to get what you want. I don't want to see another GGG v bum fight. I also want to see MW cleaned up.

I think this is a unique case and if the WBA violates its own rules for splits/compensation to get this fight made then I think its ok. Doesn't mean they should do it everytime because other situations will not be like this.

[Ake-Dawg]

I don't care if Jacobs was about $3 million or $5 million...
Jacobs clearly stated that: "they aren’t offering the right money right now"...

... What do you want to hear more ?...

Truthfully, I'd like to hear what the actually offer is RIGHT NOW. Not back in June. I don't want to assume like some of the posters whose jaded message you often cosign on.