could andre ward be the next adrien broner?

[LoadedWraps]

no, again you and others are missing the point. Ward has not proved himself against people of the same size, thats what im trying to get at. ONly now is he fighting someone good who isnt smaller than him

What? That would only be true if the Froch win never existed. Froch was elite, and the bigger man naturally.


As a Froch fan that loss hurt, but as an objective boxing fan I can't deny that it's Wards best win and a quality one.

[Madison Boxing]

What? That would only be true if the Froch win never existed. Froch was elite, and the bigger man naturally.


As a Froch fan that loss hurt, but as an objective boxing fan I can't deny that it's Wards best win and a quality one.

it was a good solid win for ward, definitely his best. BUT is it really amazing to outbox froch? I thought dirrell edged it against him, and taylor was outboxing him although hell of a comeback from froch. DOnt get me wrong froch was a really good fighter and a true warrior, but i dont think its that amazing a win, to beat him on a decision and it was very close on the scorecards too, i thought it was a close fight when i watched it. just my opinion on it...

[bojangles1987]

dont just read the title, read what ive written and have a think about it. Both men were at their best beating smaller guys, one started fighting people the same size and got exposed, it could happen to the other one.

You keep saying Ward has beaten smaller guys and no one his size and it's blatantly, completely false. Just because you keep repeating it does not make it true. Ward was not a big SMW, and did not spend his run there beating smaller guys. If you don't realize it, listen to everyone else telling you and then look up what Ward weighed in his time at the weight.

If you'd rather keep lying, then this conversation isn't worth it and hopefully people just ignore you in the future.

[bojangles1987]

it was a good solid win for ward, definitely his best. But is it really amazing to outbox froch? I thought dirrell edged it against him, and taylor was outboxing him although hell of a comeback from froch. Dont get me wrong froch was a really good fighter and a true warrior, but i dont think its that amazing a win, to beat him on a decision and it was very close on the scorecards too, i thought it was a close fight when i watched it. just my opinion on it...

Oh for ****'s sake...

[IronDanHamza]

Oh for ****'s sake...

Bare in mind we got ******ed Daggum over here trying to imply the same thing

[BillyBoxing]

At least Broner didn't quit...like dude in your Avi.

At least I'm not a little alt and racist narrow minded piece of sht.


Dude in my avi started at 135 and fought Hagler and Barkley at 160, "but they need to fight Ward first doe".

[bojangles1987]

Bare in mind we got ******ed Daggum over here trying to imply the same thing

This is why I end up assuming so many new posters are alts and treat them like crap. Then I feel bad when it was someone who genuinely just did not know and was open to listening, so I start giving people the benefit of the doubt. And then they stick to stubborn, completely ridiculous arguments like this no matter how much people explain otherwise and I'm reminded why I act like a d*ck to the others I shouldn't act that way towards. At least with Daggum I know he's just messing around and working people up. I can enjoy that.

I wish there was some way I could argue Ward/Froch was close. Dude lost handily, though.

[BillyBoxing]

Darnell Boone may have something to say about that.

He was dropped, but at the end of the day, the fight ain't was competitive.

[daggum]

What kind of ****** fck logic is that? By boxing.... Its up to the referee if he fouls not fanboys like you.

i see how far we have come. cheating has become normalized. if you criticize guys who foul you are just a fanboy? a fanboy of what? boxing? are you a fanboy of cheating then?

[daggum]

This is why I end up assuming so many new posters are alts and treat them like crap. Then I feel bad when it was someone who genuinely just did not know and was open to listening, so I start giving people the benefit of the doubt. And then they stick to stubborn, completely ridiculous arguments like this no matter how much people explain otherwise and I'm reminded why I act like a d*ck to the others I shouldn't act that way towards. At least with Daggum I know he's just messing around and working people up. I can enjoy that.

I wish there was some way I could argue Ward/Froch was close. Dude lost handily, though.

honestly froch won that fight. he was in control of the real estate. he fought his fight. he came to fight. he did all the stuff you say when you don't win a fight but you want your guy to win it.