De La Hoya has never beat anyone good!

[oldgringo]

Im not trying to say I can came all over the screen after he beat Molina but give me another fighter in recent times who in his 16 pro fight stepped up in class like Oscar did?

David Reid?

Kostya Tszyu (Bramble, LaPorte, Bergman, Mayweather, Hernandez inside of 16 fights)

Fernando Vargas (Campas)

you came all over the screen AND the keyboard.

[oldgringo]

The Ike Quartey who Oscar defeated, was no killer.
By the time they fought, he was a rusty, tentative fighter...nothing like the machine he was in '94-'96.

You guys do understand that Ike was nearly KO'd by Jose Luis Lopez, in Ike's last fight prior to facing Oscar ? You also understand that was 16 months earlier ?

The Quartey who ran through Phillips was the best I've ever seen him. I never got to see his step up fight with Espana.

[supaduck]

Originally Posted by LeadLeftHook
De La Hoya has never beaten anyone good. So what he beat Mayorga it was a given.
He beat Mayorga after Trinidad KOd him n destroyed his chin. He KOed Vargas after Vargas was shot by Trinidad. He couldnt beat Trinidad. He couldnt beat Mosely He couldnt beat Hopkins. He couldnt convincgly beat Quartey, or Whitaker or Sturm.
...hes fake just like his pretty boy fake smile.

lol, you found the internet

[DISfranchised]

But yet his tittles say otherwise...

[AintGottaClue]

She's a 16yr old girl. You didn't know?

says the wanna be thug gangsta

[guru]

Im not trying to say I can came all over the screen after he beat Molina but give me another fighter in recent times who in his 16 pro fight stepped up in class like Oscar did?

David Reid?

kostya tszyu, vargas, reid, i'm sure some others...

edited: ooops didnt see someone else had answered

[multiply]

If you're serious. I think you should do alot more research.

Yeah if you look DLH's resume on paper it's freakin' great, but dig a little deeper and the phrase "cherry picker" comes to mind.

De La Hoya a great-> Laughable

De La Hoya wisely manufactured-> F**k yeah!