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  • robertzimmerman
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    #421
    Originally posted by Scipio2009
    I doubt the PPV does 1m buys; if it gets passed 750k, I'd be shocked, tbh.

    At $60 a pop (HD fee goes to HBO), you're talking about a PPV that does $45m in business, with fighters/promoters sharing roughly $23m off of the PPV.

    You add ~$10m off of the gate/site fee, and you've got everyone sharing nearly $35m in revenue.

    Promoters take their share, and you've got the fighters sharing $25m; $10m to Golovkin (plus his share of the Germany TV money), $15m to Alvarez (plus his Mexico TV money).

    At 750k PPV buys, the split is 60/40 Alvarez (which is ridiculous, seeing as Alvarez easily does triple/quadruple the business that Golovkin does)
    Again, we'll have to wait and see.

    It's all speculation.

    Again, there is nothing wrong with a promoter asking for a split instead of a flat fee. Canelo can still get the bigger split.

    Everyone's going mad over nothing, saying GG's pricing himself out etc, when we don't even know what percentage K2 are looking for.

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      #422
      Originally posted by Bossman15
      But how come Golovkin could not do 300k then on his ppv match up he fought Brook in his toughest fight to date believe if Golovkin was real deal his numbers would be up there which is not he's a overrated bum that can't step up who let's his team lie especially Sanchez who's nothing more than a trainer playing the managerial role for what his guy to get dropped

      They didn't take the Ward fight and did not face guys who called the out or was willing to face them which shows they are duckers people forget that Canelo is no middleweight yet but remember what Canelo said he has a team and his team messed this fight up and is dragging the negotiations up but that still does not give Golovkin a pass at all hope he faces Jacobs next so he can get dropped for the first time he's owed nothing right now because he hasn't earned nothing and his team wants him to face the likes of Monroe and Brook because he is protected but watch what happen in September of 2017
      Another horse manure post.

      You're on a roll.


      They didn't take the Ward fight?

      There wasn't a Ward fight to take. And I say that as a HUGE fan of Andre's.


      Canelo's not a MW?

      Yet he was happy to win the lineal title and defend it, he has to strip naked to make 154, and he can weigh up to 172 come fight night.

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        #423
        Originally posted by bambam182
        LOL WOW, brook isnt big in the uk. did you not see his turn outs against jo jo dan and those other bums.


        why are GGG fans so ****ing ******.

        of course he offered him 1.3 for vargas, who the **** knows vargas.
        I'm from the U.K.

        Brook isn't that big.

        He'd only really fought Porter going into the fight, and Porter isn't really known much in the U.K.

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          #424
          Originally posted by PunchyPotorff
          I just recently retired from being a promoter of many different type events over 25+ years. So I do have an idea what I'm on about. 70/30 Canelo's favor is fair, and would be 2-3x what GGG has ever been paid. He's way down the ladder in the B-side of the equation. Absolute final offer should be 65/35 Canelo, and GGG doesn't even deserve that. GGG refuses, it's an obvious duck. Canelo is the big draw. End of story.
          I keep saying that I don't disagree with a fair overall split which is what K2 have asked for.

          I'm just calling BS on a $10m flat fee that's been offered a year out.

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            #425
            Originally posted by bambam182
            GGG: ill fight anyone from 154-168.

            GGG: but..........i want ward at 164 for his titles, in 2017 ROFL.
            They didn't even have talks with Andre where any specifics were discussed.

            This hate is hilarious.

            What are you going to be like next year?

            You'll end up having a breakdown.

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              #426
              Originally posted by bambam182
              LOL WOW, brook isnt big in the uk. did you not see his turn outs against jo jo dan and those other bums.


              why are GGG fans so ****ing ******.

              of course he offered him 1.3 for vargas, who the **** knows vargas.
              So you're now changing the word 'huge' and replacing it with the word 'big' instead?

              Kell's from Sheffield.

              He fought Dan in the Sheffield Arena which holds just over 10,000.

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              • robertzimmerman
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                #427
                Originally posted by EL_GRINGO
                haha not at all,i admire you're persistence!
                Feel free to take over if you like.

                It's exhausting.

                Ha!

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                  #428
                  Originally posted by Bossman15
                  No Johnson was the mandatory Wade was the replacement due to his injury second BJS is only coming to the table for the same reason everyone else is trying to do and that's because they seen flaws in Golovkin vs Brook and now the whole division wants to fight him when Canelo Ward and Mayweather would be the only one's to give Golovkin a run for his money and if you talk money 10 million is a legit price being that your trying to make a fight you can't out price yourself out
                  Okay, Wade was a replacement. It doesn't matter. You know why his name was referenced.

                  Yes, GG's performance against Brook has given guys like BJS and Jacobs a confidence boost.

                  A $10m flat fee is nonsense.

                  Again, just let them work out a fair percentage split.

                  It shouldn't be an issue.
                  Last edited by robertzimmerman; 09-23-2016, 10:26 PM.

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                    #429
                    Originally posted by robertzimmerman
                    Get in the real world.

                    Yes, you do call a BS offer a duck.

                    As long as it's fair, there is NOTHING WRONG with a percentage split of the total amount.

                    $10m could be a drop in the ocean compared to the total figure.
                    Key word being "could." PPVs are not doing that well as of late! Just like GGG vs. Brook was not Leonard vs. Hagler, GGG vs. Alvarez is not Mayweather vs. Pacquiao. Mayweather & Pacquiao were BOTH proven PPV stars. Canelo & GGG are not on the same level! We'll see what the state of boxing is when we see the Kovalev vs. Ward PPV numbers.
                    Last edited by Bronx2245; 09-24-2016, 01:24 AM.

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                      #430
                      Originally posted by robertzimmerman
                      I keep saying that I don't disagree with a fair overall split which is what K2 have asked for. I'm just calling BS on a $10m flat fee that's been offered a year out.
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                      Originally Posted by robertzimmerman View Post
                      You need to know how businessman operate. It's a good job you're not part of K2.

                      Like I said, I know what I'm talking about. That's MY point. Don't tell someone they don't know promoting when you don't know what the he!! you're on about.

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