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Originally posted by Boxing Logic View PostI want to see GGG-Zurdo too before GGG gets too old. I think that is GGG's legacy fight. Ramirez is four inches taller with a five inch reach advantage, a natural light heavyweight fighting at 168, outweighs GGG outside the ring by 25 pounds, is a southpaw, is the biggest puncher a weight class above GGG, and is undefeated. Boxing fans are sleeping on that fight more than any fight I've seen. Ramirez might be faster than GGG too and at 168 could be just as powerful. How is GGG supposed to beat a guy who is bigger, maybe faster, taller, longer, probably stronger, and a southpaw?
I would love to find out! That is a fight that will test all of GGG's skills.
But guess what? Even though Gilberto is the bigger guy with almost every advantage, it's still his side, Bob Arum, avoiding the fight! They say they want it but for next year.
See the problem? GGG is so damn good, even guys who might be able to beat him, and who are way bigger than him, still want to duck him until he hits 35 years old. But yes, GGG-Ramirez is the most dangerous fight for GGG from 154 to 168, for sure. Degale just went life and death with Rogelio Medina, and got a gift decision. Ramirez would dominate Medina so he would probably dominate Degale too. Degale struggled with old Bute too, and lost to Groves. And Badou Jack is Badou Jack. So, while there is more focus on the PBC super middles because there are more of them, the best one clearly in my opinion in Zurdo.
That means GGG vs Zurdo would be #1 at 160 vs #1 at 168. But again the 168 is still ducking the 160. It's crazy but that's how good GGG is.
However, GGG-Jacobs is the second most dangerous fight for GGG. The most dangerous is Zurdo. Then Jacobs. Then Degale, Eubanks, Canelo are all tied for third, you can debate them since they're all different styles and different weights. I think GGG already beat potentially the most dangerous guy besides Zurdo and maybe Jacobs in David Lemieux. Lemieux is underrated because he did so bad against Rubio, but that was all down to stamina and bad training. Since then he evolved into a dominant middleweight champion which we saw the way he absolutely dominated Ndam and Rosado. Only Quillin dominated Ndam like that before, styles make fights and Quillin was way bigger, and no one not even GGG dominated Rosado once he got good like Lemieux did.
So those are the most dangerous fights for GGG...
1. Zurdo
2. Jacobs/Lemieux, and he already took out Lemieux
3. I'll give it to Degale over the other two just because he's bigger, but the others are probably better pound for pound
4. Eubank jr and Canelo tied
5. Saunders
6. Lara (yes he's faster than Saunders smaller, possibly less power, definitely less chin. I doubt he could disarm a middleweight with equal speed to him and more power like Eubank jr the way Saunders did)
I really hope after everyone has ducked GGG throughout basically his entire prime, that the top 5 will all step up by the end of 2017, and GGG will have a chance to make a legacy in his late 34/early 35 years when he might still be mostly in his prime. Once you hit 36 it's very iffy, but hopefully if those guys all step up, and if GGG can beat them all, then in early 2018 GGG can fight the Kovalev-Ward winner while he's still 35... that's pretty old to be taking such a hard fight but everyone ducked GGG throughout his prime so that's how it goes. They would be 34-35 by then too.
That's what I hope happens. But certainly if Zurdo, Jacobs, Eubanks, Degale, Canelo step up next year, it will be a banner year for GGG if he takes care of business. Those are the fights everyone wants to see. And of course Saunders just to get the belt.
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Originally posted by GolovkinBREAKING NEWS: Oscar overheard telling select media friends, "We are not fighting GGG. This is a business, I have to protect mine."
— 24/7 Boxing (@247boxingnews) September 20, 2016
SOURCES confirm, Oscar told GB team: "The fight is not happening". Consensus is they don't feel Canelo can beat Golovkin.
— 24/7 Boxing (@247boxingnews) September 20, 2016
@Canelo told close friends his life is more important than what the fans think. Expressed depression with pressure of fans but health first.
— 24/7 Boxing (@247boxingnews) September 20, 2016
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This is all falling on oscar now. Max kellerman exposed him. And since then he has been reeling.
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Originally posted by yngwie View PostWOW, Canelo fought 3 HOF's since saturday?, that's some GOAT stuff.
OHHHHH, you are talking about Mosley, Cotto and Floyd in their last moments of their pro careers and even when arguably lost two of those fights even when he is in his prime and is "the best fighter in the business".
3 hall of famers that were old timers.
Shane was shot to bits. He was a tune for anyone at 147 in the top 25.
Cotto was overhyped past it material.
Even floyd was was old. Peak yes and we all saw how that turned out.
Canelo arguably lost to trout and lara ..
He is ducking monroe and GGG .
Dude is soft
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Originally posted by Jc8804 View Post3 hall of famers that were old timers.
Shane was shot to bits. He was a tune for anyone at 147 in the top 25.
Cotto was overhyped past it material.
Even floyd was was old. Peak yes and we all saw how that turned out.
Canelo arguably lost to trout and lara ..
He is ducking monroe and GGG .
Dude is soft
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Originally posted by casheddie View PostMan in what twisted world is GGG a B side that deserves a flat fee like some mandatory. This man is the most talked about fighter in the hardcore fan circles and the casual boxing world.
- He sold out MSG, The Forum and The 02. He was the bigger fighter in all three events
- Currently stands as the #3 P4P fighter in the world.
- Has 4 of the 5 middleweight championships
- Most dominant fighter in his division
- Undefeated with 33 KO's, highest KO percentage in middleweight history and 23 KO streak
- Has never been outclassed in a fight in his life
- Delivered a knock down/out in every fight he's been in.
And somehow the cinnamon colored cunt Canelo is an A side for some strange reason. boy made 3.5 mil in his last fight and is dictating? If it wasn't for the mexicans that watch his fights twice a year, he'd be another Saunders.
He got nothing to bring to the table other than a loss to Mayweather that endeared us to him, a win over an old Mosley and a win over a smaller Cotto for a belt that he later vacated which made us hate him. Seems like he had a real HOF'er run.
-Golovkin's "sellout" of MSG did half the business of Cotto's sellout at MSG, he's yet to actually sell out the 17,500-seat LA Forum, and he was simply brought in to face the British star at the O2.
-He's been handed the WBA, WBC, and was basically handed the IBF belt.
-He's yet to fight anyone who was truly seen as a p4p-level fighter.
-his actual business is nowhere near as impressive as his fans want to claim.
hilarious to see the spin by clowns.
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Canelicia: I really don't wanna fight GGG, I know he'll get me. You know it too.
Oscar: So, don't worry, we are never going to fight GGG. I won't let it happen. Hey, does this cucumber in my butt look crooked?
Canelicia: No it looks straight, why?
Oscar: Just checking.. you know how I like to be straight..
Canelicia: Haha!! Good one!!
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