Comments Thread For: Arum Reflects on Mayweather's IV, Pacquiao Shoulder Shot Scandal

[Zaroku]

Nearly a year and a half later and the pain is still real in Pacland. The repetitive threads might get old, but the tears never will.

The pain... The tears.... I feel for them. They lost their God. PAC didn't win, and now we a left with excuses and twisted logic.

Honestly, I was never loved like a t@rd loves Manny. I am envious. They got mad blind love for PACman

[Zaroku]

25 pages and counting the obsessed!

I'm a sicko who loves shutting on t@rds. Many only post in PAC related threads. Freaky stuff!

Slow motion pain!

[ADP02]

You still can't comprehend properly, can you? The point of me dropping the WADA quotation is to show that there are cases in which IV rehydration is more effective than oral hydration. YOU are the one trying to run with the specific case that WADA mentions. Did you not see in the quotation where it says other forms of hypoatremia is treated with an infusion of normal saline??? Your speculation about whether they were able to diagnose him with that is just that...speculation. I can speculate that they did diagnose him with that and speculate that it's why he wasn't able to urinate though he was drinking water, which you love to point out. And again, you have no idea when he stopped doing road work or how it affected him over time, so give it up.

The point is, once again, that WADA mentions that there are situations where an IV would be more effective, and the physician has to state the case to the independent TUEC. Now I suggest you look at his medical records to find out about it instead of speculating about who was the doctor and speculating about WADA based on how they treated Russian athletes. That's beyond idiotic. I'm sure WADA looked at the application being that this was a huge event! The application, according to their rules, must be complete enough with specifics so that they themselves could approve it without even seeing the patient.

Sorry but YOU brought up HYPONATREMIA and I then even asked you to clarify on multiple occasions on multiple threads what that had to do with FLoyd.

Now that I showed you what WADA meant by that case, you are now left with that word but as you saw, WADA's example was when someone had severe HYPONATREMIA where the athlete needs to be monitored in a hospital. When someone has HYPONATREMIA then they need to be monitored in the hospital for various reasons which includes making sure that Floyd's brain was not swelling and of course, to diagnose it properly because if they make a mistake in medicating the athlete, it can make things worse for the patient instead of better. Floyd was at home and did not go to no hospital.


USADA gave out that RETRO TUE like candy when it comes to Floyd but with others, USADA is much more strict about it.


No, you are the only one speculating when it comes to this. Its the day before the fight. He is an experienced athlete that has experienced people around him. So to even speculate that he exercised to the point that he required an IV is ******.
Furthermore, there are interviews where Floyd is asked, how he will be spending his final days before the fight.



FLOYD MAYWEATHER REVEALS HIS PLANS FOR FINAL DAYS LEADING UP TO PACQUIAO SHOWDOWN

"I'm just at home relaxing...watching playoff basketball, watching movies, and just, you know, go to the gym a little bit and shake out...meditate, sit down, cool out," stated undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather, who talked about what's in store for him in the final days leading up to his May 2 showdown with Manny Pacquiao" - Floyd relaxing Mayweather


We have confirmation of all 3 of FLoyd's excuses for dehydration are lies. Urine, blood and now exercising. So like you said, give it up!!!


USADA who suggests requesting TUEs 30 days in advance, rubber stamped Floyd's RETRO TUE. Floyd gave it to them and USADA gave it right back approved the next day. There was no further investigation on USADA's/TUEC's part to be sure it was truthful. Its almost as if the time BEFORE the request is when Floyd/USADA did all of their talking about this request.

WADA: So one man named Floyd was more important than all those Russian athletes which had the attention of many including going into the RIO Olympics? That is funny. As I stated before, Floyd made sure that it was well covered up and would not be easy for WADA to see unless they truly do an investigation. USADA let it go as Floyd's request met the minimum standards according to them and thought it would be enough to get by WADA. For one, its optional for WADA to even review the case since they are too busy reviewing TUEs that they have been requested to review.

[travestyny]

Relax bud. It was just a simple question. Even athletes who start off hating each other often shake hands at the end of their event ...... and I don't think we hate each other, right?

Sorry, man. Initially I took that as you trying to show I'm giving false info or something. Later I actually thought maybe my response was harsh and maybe you didn't mean it that way at all. Now that you cleared it up, I apologize.

Quick intro. I'm Travis from NY. Hence the nickname travestyny. Born and raised in NY. Lived there until 27, when I began traveling. Currently living in Asia, but I always return to NY.

[travestyny]

Sorry but YOU brought up HYPONATREMIA and I then even asked you to clarify on multiple occasions on multiple threads what that had to do with FLoyd.

Now that I showed you what WADA meant by that case, you are now left with that word but as you saw, WADA's example was when someone had severe HYPONATREMIA where the athlete needs to be monitored in a hospital. When someone has HYPONATREMIA then they need to be monitored in the hospital for various reasons which includes making sure that Floyd's brain was not swelling and of course, to diagnose it properly because if they make a mistake in medicating the athlete, it can make things worse for the patient instead of better. Floyd was at home and did not go to no hospital.


USADA gave out that RETRO TUE like candy when it comes to Floyd but with others, USADA is much more strict about it.


No, you are the only one speculating when it comes to this. Its the day before the fight. He is an experienced athlete that has experienced people around him. So to even speculate that he exercised to the point that he required an IV is ******.
Furthermore, there are interviews where Floyd is asked, how he will be spending his final days before the fight.



FLOYD MAYWEATHER REVEALS HIS PLANS FOR FINAL DAYS LEADING UP TO PACQUIAO SHOWDOWN

"I'm just at home relaxing...watching playoff basketball, watching movies, and just, you know, go to the gym a little bit and shake out...meditate, sit down, cool out," stated undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather, who talked about what's in store for him in the final days leading up to his May 2 showdown with Manny Pacquiao" - Floyd relaxing Mayweather


We have confirmation of all 3 of FLoyd's excuses for dehydration are lies. Urine, blood and now exercising. So like you said, give it up!!!


USADA who suggests requesting TUEs 30 days in advance, rubber stamped Floyd's RETRO TUE. Floyd gave it to them and USADA gave it right back approved the next day. There was no further investigation on USADA's/TUEC's part to be sure it was truthful. Its almost as if the time BEFORE the request is when Floyd/USADA did all of their talking about this request.

WADA: So one man named Floyd was more important than all those Russian athletes which had the attention of many including going into the RIO Olympics? That is funny. As I stated before, Floyd made sure that it was well covered up and would not be easy for WADA to see unless they truly do an investigation. USADA let it go as Floyd's request met the minimum standards according to them and thought it would be enough to get by WADA. For one, its optional for WADA to even review the case since they are too busy reviewing TUEs that they have been requested to review.

You still aren't getting it. The point is that there are cases where an IV is more appropriate. I've never stated that he had hyponatremia, yet he may have. And if he did, it would be treated with an IV. It need not be hypertonic saline, depending on the type of hyponatremia, right? I've already showed you this.

Did Floyd run in the mornings like he usually does? Do you know? Did he have chronic dehydration? Did he have a form of hyponatremia that did not allow him to urine even after drinking water? Can this condition be chronic? Can it have an accumulative effect and persist until hydration by IV?

These are some questions that you should think about. Now again, if you can get his medical records, you can get to the bottom of it.

Then, your next task is to prove PED abuse. No idea how you can prove that with the evidence out there. Would seem very hard to prove that theory with the independent parties involved and the nature of the testing. Is there really a need to go on?

By the way, nice speculation about WADA being too busy and USADA meeting bare minimums. Don't you get tired of making up shlt?

[Spoon23]

I'm a sicko who loves shutting on t@rds.

Your Psycho Mickey with a knife explains it. You're one sick old timer whose obssession for Mickey Mouse Toys is beyond sanity. You can't get any sicker than that brotha' hahaha

But you forgot that I'm Spoonman. I'll eat your Psycho Mickey any day of the week. Here's a song for you. Just for you.

[Dosumpthin]

USADA gave out that RETRO TUE like candy when it comes to Floyd but with others, USADA is much more strict about it.

"Like candy".
As per VICTOR CONTE. Thomas Hauser MAIN source of information in "can boxing trust USADA". Lol

I can see why he feels TUE are hard to obtain. He's a convicted ped abusing drug felon. So no - ADOs will not give gim a TUE "like it's candy" Gun permits, voters registration card - that's not candy for him either.

We have confirmation of all 3 of FLoyd's excuses for dehydration are lies. Urine, blood and now exercising. So like you said, give it up!!!

He also claimed that old age "contributed to" dehydration as well. So that makes 4 excuses. Just want to correct you because you seem to only hear want you want to hear.


Not that it matters, because Floyd is not a doctor. You should consult floyds doctor to find out the cause of dehydration.

WADA: So one man named Floyd was more important than all those Russian athletes which had the attention of many including going into the RIO Olympics?

Took 5 years to make the fight. Pac vs Floyd sold 4.2 million PPVS. Per house hold. Each house hold holds multiple people. Let that sink in.

That's more than "attention of many".



So Stop it. WADA kicked RUSADA in the nuts and they are no longer a signatory.

All WADA has to do is reverse the USADA TUE. That doesn't affect USADA status of being a signatory. It does put Floyd in a bind. So WADA is scared of one man, little ole floyd.


Maybe, just maybe - Floyd is clean.

[Zaroku]

Your Psycho Mickey with a knife explains it. You're one sick old timer who's obssession for Mickey Mouse Toys is beyond sanity. You can't get any sicker than that brotha' hahaha

But you forgot that I'm Spoonman. I'll eat your Psycho Mickey any day of the week. Here's a song for you. Just for you.

Mickey is actually a bear!

[Spoon23]

Maybe, just maybe - Floyd is clean.

I thought kids are gullible and rightfully naive, but I never thought grown ups can even be worse than they are hahahaha

Bats are blind, but when you can see, but can't see what's right there, your either part of a brainwash cult or you are actually one of those rare breed of naive people on planet earth. Jeez man.. You are one sad state of wishing for what is not there. Grow up old man. You have to learn that reality bites. Don't live in fl0mo land forever, it's not always safe there. Someday. Your brain will seize to function for all the ******ation your master teaches you hahaha

[Dosumpthin]

I thought kids are gullible and rightfully naive, but I never thought grown ups can even be worse than they are hahahaha

Bats are blind, but when you can see, but can't see what's right there, your either part of a brainwash cult or you are actually one of those rare breed of naive people on planet earth. Jeez man.. You are one sad state of wishing for what is not there. Grow up old man. You have to learn that reality bites. Don't live in fl0mo land forever, it's not always safe there. Someday. Your brain will seize to function for all the ******ation your master teaches you hahaha

Really? Do you believe Pac beat Floyd?





















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