Comments Thread For: Arum Reflects on Mayweather's IV, Pacquiao Shoulder Shot Scandal

[LoadedWraps]

Really? Do you believe Pac beat Floyd?





















Bwhahahahaha

[Zaroku]

I thought Mickey was a serial killer?

So he's a bear and a serial killer..

Hmm.. Interesting..

Well, Enjoy your psycho Mickey toys. I know you collect all the variants. Wind him up and enjoy Mickey kill your make believe Girl friend's pooch whom supposedly owns your dog hahaha

Worst move I made in Tokyo was buying Jhonny!

[robbyheartbaby]

HOW MUCH DOES THIS STINK TO HIGH HEAVEN YOU PAC"TURD"
ROB ARUM THE DIRTY LYING SNAKE STRIKEs AGAIN! THE SAME GUY WHO HAS BEEN INVESTIGaTED BY THE F.B.I AND JUSTICE DEPARTMENT FOR FIXING FIGHTS AND MESSING WITH WEIGHING MACHINES AT WEIGH INS!!!! LINKS BELOW..... WHY DOES MANNY WORK FOR SUCH A CRIMINAL PROMOTER? MANNY SEEMS TO LOVE HANGING WITH CRIMINALS!

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sport...tigation_x.htm

http://articles.latimes.com/2004/jan/09/sports/sp-arum9

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sport...-gibbons_x.htm

That's pretty harsh man I'm a Floyd fan too homie, just commenting on what seems to be a fishy situation.

[Zaroku]

Dude, this is all complete speculation. You are wasting your time stating what you generally believe to be wrong with drug testing. Your problem is you presume guilt, and the reasons you give is because someone somewhere has a problem with drug testing protocol. Why can't you focus on the facts?

1. He gave a partial urine sample from before the IV.
2. His urine was required to pass the specific gravity test.
3. He passed 19 drug tests from an independent laboratory who had no way of identifying his samples.
4. The TUE was accepted by an independent team of doctors.
5. The TUE application and reasons for acceptance were sent to the World Anti-Doping Agency.

Is there really any more to say? Again, the only way he cheated:

1. USADA was paid off
2. The TUEC was paid off
3. The labs were paid off
4. WADA was paid off

USADA would have had to be at the forefront of helping, and I think it's clear that they could have done much better to help in the case that he was cheating. Why the hell would they choose to involve the TUEC and WADA? That's very risky for someone in their position who could have just stayed away and left no paper trail. USADA willingly put their head on the block for Floyd Mayweather???? Who, by the way, was set to retire in one more fight.

This should seem absolutely ludicrous to any rational person.

I like your logic! HBO was paid off too! Manny losing proves it was a big anti PAC conspiracy! God was paid off too! The lord failed to deliber(sic) Ployd into PAC's hands.

[travestyny]

I like your logic! HBO was paid off too! Manny losing proves it was a big anti PAC conspiracy! God was paid off too! The lord failed to deliber(sic) Ployd into PAC's hands.

Hahaha. Man, it's crazy. Very interesting fight this weekend, though it has that circus freak show feel to it. I hope we can all move on and look ahead!

[ADP02]

WTF???? Lol.

If you suffer from Chronic dehydration that means you either:

1. Are too ****** to drink enough water on a day to day basis. (rehydrate orally)

2. have a medical condition that causes you to frequently become dehydrated despite drinking enough water. (Rehydrate via IV first then correct the medical condition)

Example : Irritable bowel syndrome. Constant diarrhea.



No matter what nonsense you spew, you don't have access to floyds medical records. Find out the OFFICAL DIAGNOSIS (from a physician) then and only then do you have grounds to challenge the validity of the TUE.




Until then you're just another butthurt pact@rd whos hero failed miserably on May 2nd.

1. We are not talking about a high school wan bee athlete that comes to practice the next day already dehydrated beforehand. They had Floyd monitored. Check Floyd's videos...... he would even ask "What should I drink? Water? OK ....."


2. Sorry but Floyd already told you. He was dehydrated because of giving urine, giving <1 tablespoon of blood 10 days before and exercises which he admits in his videos that he was just going to do "a little bit". "A little bit" of exercise made sense to me and I had already stated but since you guys know they are lousy excuses, you want to reinvent something for Floyd.

3. Floyd's weight was rock solid for 30 days. Floyd admits to making weight EASILY for a decade. If Floyd was severely dehydrated due to what he stated, his weight would have gone much lower than it did. It didn't.
Actually even if Floyd had, as you tried to make us believe, diarrhea, Floyd's weight would not have been rock solid stable but it was.

But Floyd/Ellerbe/Ariza never mentioned any of that and stayed consistent in several interviews. Not even his pre-fight form mentioned any other medical condition. Oh wait. He has allergies! So do I ..... I should be using an IV every time I train and feel dehydrated. What a joke!

[ADP02]

Dude, this is all complete speculation. You are wasting your time stating what you generally believe to be wrong with drug testing. Your problem is you presume guilt, and the reasons you give is because someone somewhere has a problem with drug testing protocol. Why can't you focus on the facts?

1. He gave a partial urine sample from before the IV.
2. His urine was required to pass the specific gravity test.
3. He passed 19 drug tests from an independent laboratory who had no way of identifying his samples.
4. The TUE was accepted by an independent team of doctors.
5. The TUE application and reasons for acceptance were sent to the World Anti-Doping Agency.

Is there really any more to say? Again, the only way he cheated:

1. USADA was paid off
2. The TUEC was paid off
3. The labs were paid off
4. WADA was paid off

USADA would have had to be at the forefront of helping, and I think it's clear that they could have done much better to help in the case that he was cheating. Why the hell would they choose to involve the TUEC and WADA? That's very risky for someone in their position who could have just stayed away and left no paper trail. USADA willingly put their head on the block for Floyd Mayweather???? Who, by the way, was set to retire in one more fight.

This should seem absolutely ludicrous to any rational person.

Those are not my words. This was created(work group) and established by WADA. They had key people who contributed to it. THis included people who you quoted in the past. Eg. Dr. Christiane Ayotte, **** Pound,......


From your post, people used to say the same about Lance Armstrong. People (Lance's fans) mocked as you tried to do but fortunately the truth came out.



Floyd used an IV but shouldn't have. The data is all there. You and a few FLoyd fans try to distort all the facts since even you cannot believe Floyd's excuses (urine, blood, exercise) .... I successfully shot all the BS excuses down.




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[ADP02]

Another Ace by ADP02. Crystal clear as always.

hmm interesting..

Thanks!


Yup, very interesting on how Floyd can boast like that when he had just received an IV because he was supposedly dehydrated.

[ADP02]

I like your logic! HBO was paid off too! Manny losing proves it was a big anti PAC conspiracy! God was paid off too! The lord failed to deliber(sic) Ployd into PAC's hands.

Its not that at all.

Floyd and his fans were crying when Weeks (ref) called the first Maidana fight. In that fight, Floyd removed Maidana's gloves remember. All was OK by Floyd and his fans but once got hit like he did in that fight, it was "Week's was to blame". If the Vegas judges called that one better, they would have given Maidana at least a draw or perhaps a win. Again, Floyd fans would have made it about the ref, right?

But as you saw, Floyd took care of the Weeks issue for the Maidana II fight. Still no preferred gloves for Maidana plus Floyd had them put Kenny STOP STOP Bayless and of course, Dave Moretti judging AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!! Just crazy stuff when you really think about it!

[travestyny]

Those are not my words. This was created(work group) and established by WADA. They had key people who contributed to it. THis included people who you quoted in the past. Eg. Dr. Christiane Ayotte, **** Pound,......


From your post, people used to say the same about Lance Armstrong. People (Lance's fans) mocked as you tried to do but fortunately the truth came out.



Floyd used an IV but shouldn't have. The data is all there. You and a few FLoyd fans try to distort all the facts since even you cannot believe Floyd's excuses (urine, blood, exercise) .... I successfully shot all the BS excuses down.

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Stop fooling yourself. You haven't shot anything down and you know it.

Your BS about NSAC not finding him to be dehydrated is laughable.

Your Failure to explain how the independent TUEC and WADA explicitly and implicitly agreed with the IV....shows your non existent proof of anything.

If you believe you've done something, I suggest you take your "data" to Arum and Pacquiao. Apparently you are much smarter than they are, since they gave up long ago.

And once again...stop putting words in poster's mouths. He said those 3 things contributed to his dehydration. I don't see what's so unbelievable about that. What I can't believe is that you think you've proven anything. You've proven you are a butthurt Pacquaio fan that can't let it go.