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  • Combat Talk Radio
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    #41
    Originally posted by Mike D
    Of course I didn't expect a war. I mean it's a Floyd fight for f**k's sake. But people who act like it was some dominant performance by Floyd...lmfao. That's laughable. Both guys set career lows in punches landed.

    It was a light sparring session that cost motherf**kers $100 bucks to watch. The fight was trash and both of those f**kers put forth lame ass performances.

    One was just more lame than the other.
    FACT: You expected Floyd would look for a counter opportunity because he always does.

    FACT: You expected Manny to go all out with punches in bunches from odd angles with constant pressure throughout the fight.

    One of the two didn't meet your expectations. That person lost - BECAUSE they didn't do what they were expected to do.

    Originally posted by Bravado
    Ricky was the last true person Floyd fought that never stopped pursuing him and attacking, and after that fight, you realized why people stop. The more you push against Floyd, the more he makes you pay for doing so and he can and will hurt you and people know that, but to negate him and his greatness/ability, they just act as if he's this coward or inept guy simply because he's ok with just winning by decision.
    Frankly, I don't think this logic applies to Floyd.

    If Manny had shown up I don't think the fight would have been as lopsided. I don't. In fact I feel that had Manny shown up, he would likely have dropped Floyd at least once in the fight. But he didn't show up.

    Originally posted by Jc8804
    This is all based on you 're biased opinion
    Watch the video. That's exactly what was said in the video. I just summarized for people.

    Originally posted by Jc8804
    I dont know. Pac was pretty shot. He got iced by marquez and looked burnt out. Fighters with his style burn out at his age historically

    Imo the fight should have never happened.floyd waited way too long to finally fight pacman.
    On top of that , he took an illegal iv to mask something.
    Excuses. You came up with like 4 excuses in one post.

    Pac wasn't shot, he was fresh off a comfortable victory against Bradley and Algieri. Went on after TBE to get an even more comfortable victory against Bradley. Pac is second best. Floyd even called him an A level. Just not Mayweather League.

    Reality is your boy got schooled, you're upset, you're angry, you're frustrated. Fine - be angry AT MANNY for not showing up. HE let you down. HE took people's money and ran, and now he's back to take more money with a bum fight.

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    • Bravado
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      #42
      Originally posted by revelated
      FACT: You expected Floyd would look for a counter opportunity because he always does.

      FACT: You expected Manny to go all out with punches in bunches from odd angles with constant pressure throughout the fight.

      One of the two didn't meet your expectations. That person lost - BECAUSE they didn't do what they were expected to do.



      Frankly, I don't think this logic applies to Floyd.

      If Manny had shown up I don't think the fight would have been as lopsided. I don't. In fact I feel that had Manny shown up, he would likely have dropped Floyd at least once in the fight. But he didn't show up.



      Watch the video. That's exactly what was said in the video. I just summarized for people.



      Excuses. You came up with like 4 excuses in one post.

      Pac wasn't shot, he was fresh off a comfortable victory against Bradley and Algieri. Went on after TBE to get an even more comfortable victory against Bradley. Pac is second best. Floyd even called him an A level. Just not Mayweather League.

      Reality is your boy got schooled, you're upset, you're angry, you're frustrated. Fine - be angry AT MANNY for not showing up. HE let you down. HE took people's money and ran, and now he's back to take more money with a bum fight.


      He did show up, it was just that Pac from then to now was always gonna lose to a guy like Floyd and he didn't wanna lose like he did. The Marquez timing him and knocking him out moment was bound to happen because of how he jumps in with his tendencies exposed, but knowing that was possible he didn't do it vs Floyd. He fought him with the respect he always had for him.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Bravado
        He did show up, it was just that Pac from then to now was always gonna lose to a guy like Floyd and he didn't wanna lose like he did. The Marquez timing him and knocking him out moment was bound to happen because of how he jumps in with his tendencies exposed, but knowing that was possible he didn't do it vs Floyd. He fought him with the respect he always had for him.
        I used to believe what you're saying, seriously.

        But if what you say was true, why would Manny be so damn thirsty for a rematch? Why would he sit there after the fight claiming he thought he won?

        I honestly feel that Manny didn't show up BECAUSE he was afraid of getting knocked out. But what bothers me is why he felt that way against Floyd. It's not like Floyd has Marquez power and again, he took shots from Margacheato and Clottey who are both stronger than Floyd. It doesn't make sense.

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        • Mike D
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          #44
          As a Manny fan, I can honestly say that I would've rather him gotten KO'd and trying to go out on his shield and taking risks, than fighting the way he fought that night.

          Trying to box with Floyd is f**king ******ed. Besides it's highly unlikely Floyd would've dropped his ass anyways. Floyd has Tim Bradley power these days. Floyd ain't knocking anybody out. His ass would probably have to decision Rod f**king Salka.

          Manny waited years for his one shot at that f**ker and he fights cautious and timid en route to his most inept offensive output of his entire career? Now yeah, Floyd deserves some credit. A lot of credit. Floyd's the greatest defensive mastermind to ever step foot into a ring. I'll give him that much. But whatever, regardless of that, that was a putrid showing by Manny. You gotta take some f**king risks. It was like Manny was fighting not to lose as opposed to fighting to win.

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            #45
            Originally posted by therealpugilist
            Winning 8-4, or 9-3 is dominant no matter how you slice it

            Any sport

            Was it electrifying.... No

            He followed the plan n got the job done...
            Yep...........

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              #46
              Who was floyd schooling? This is a typical floyd interview of him crying for not getting full credit on a win. Floyd won a lot of rounds but I wouldn't call it dominating because that performance was far from dominating.

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                #47
                Originally posted by revelated

                Frankly, I don't think this logic applies to Floyd.

                If Manny had shown up I don't think the fight would have been as lopsided. I don't. In fact I feel that had Manny shown up, he would likely have dropped Floyd at least once in the fight. But he didn't show up.


                I dont agree with this because Manny has not hurt anyone since the MM slight of hand , Floyd would have probably hurt him pretty bad if Manny had of gone for him in a wild way , Manny was shut down by timing position and skill , Floyd controlled the distance and there was not a dam thing Manny could do to counter that , Floyd was Floyd and was always going to beat Manny he is just a more complete intelligent fighter .

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by revelated
                  I used to believe what you're saying, seriously.

                  But if what you say was true, why would Manny be so damn thirsty for a rematch? Why would he sit there after the fight claiming he thought he won?


                  I honestly feel that Manny didn't show up BECAUSE he was afraid of getting knocked out. But what bothers me is why he felt that way against Floyd. It's not like Floyd has Marquez power and again, he took shots from Margacheato and Clottey who are both stronger than Floyd. It doesn't make sense.

                  He wants more money. I'd pay to have Floyd be too slippery and elusive to hit and win some easy bread. Look at Maidana. Still prime, can give everybody problems but he rather retire and chill in Argentina. Shane had no real incentive to face Floyd until that **** took his money. Berto is living good. So many people are even after he's retired, begging for a Floyd fight.

                  Clottey, Margarito and all those other hard hitters are too inaccurate. Its like fighting with a sledgehammer vs a ruler. After 100 hits from a ruler your POV changes.

                  And i think Floyd hits WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY harder than Tim.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by revelated
                    I used to believe what you're saying, seriously.

                    But if what you say was true, why would Manny be so damn thirsty for a rematch? Why would he sit there after the fight claiming he thought he won?

                    I honestly feel that Manny didn't show up BECAUSE he was afraid of getting knocked out. But what bothers me is why he felt that way against Floyd. It's not like Floyd has Marquez power and again, he took shots from Margacheato and Clottey who are both stronger than Floyd. It doesn't make sense.
                    I think it bothered him that he couldn't break Mayweather down, even in his best rounds 4 and 6, it was Mayweather who finished them stronger. It's hard to deal with something like that mentally.

                    As for punching power, Mayweather can punch. Pacquiao was one fight removed from completely disregarding Algieri's power, all to the point of jumping in recklessly. He knew exactly what he felt in that first round against Mayweather.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
                      I think it bothered him that he couldn't break Mayweather down, even in his best rounds 4 and 6, it was Mayweather who finished them stronger. It's hard to deal with something like that mentally.

                      As for punching power, Mayweather can punch. Pacquiao was one fight removed from completely disregarding Algieri's power, all to the point of jumping in recklessly. He knew exactly what he felt in that first round against Mayweather.
                      Great observation.

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