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  • #41
    Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
    I have a hard time seeing Brook fight at 147 again & if he does & its too quick it could be one of those RJJ/Chris Byrd moves down in weight where Brook loses something in the weight loss. And Hearn's works often with PBC & PBC is loaded at 154 so if Brook comes up short at 160 vs GGG I foresee him getting in play for the Charlo's, J Rock or Lara at 154. And obviously if Brook beats GGG than Brook is in play for a huge fight with Canelo so obviously he's not moving back down at that point.

    I don't think Brook being "scared' of or ducking Spence would have anything to do with it as some nutty mfers are suggesting either. You don't move up two weight divisions to fight one of the most avoided guys in the sport if you're scared of or ducking a guy 2 divisions down who's still more potential than proven at the elite level.
    Fot some reason I don't see him fighting the champs at 154. He wants big fights and most of those guys are unknown. He might go for the vacant title after canelo vacate it after he wins but I dont see him fighting any other 154 champs just cause risk reward.

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    • #42
      If Khan says he will fight Brook if he faces Spence then expect it to happen him going back down to 147lbs. Also i dont think Spence will beat Brook, due to clash of styles.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
        That's how I feel when people say Ward went up to 175 to "duck" GGG! You don't go up to fight Kovalev if you're scared of GGG! 154 would be a good place for Brook! Plenty of action, especially with the PBC! Charlo Bros., Lara, J-Rock, and Andrade! Lots to choose from.
        Yep agree across the board.

        Only problem is Brook had a lot of choices @ 147, but still fought Jo Jo Dan, Frankie Gavin, and Kevin Bizier! NOT COOL!
        And lol solid point.

        But I mean if he's taking on GGG he's obviously looking to take more risks at this point it would seem. And to be fair JoJo & Bizier were bs mandatory's forced upon him.

        Now you can argue well he shoulda been more active & without recalling Brook's injuries over his reign I can't say how legit that is or isn't as a counterpoint. And for sure him fighting someone better in his voluntary than Gavin is a legit counterpoint, but 2/3's of his defenses were on the IBF not on Hearn or Brook & I'm typically a guy who's more critical of Brook than favorable so while not impressed with Brook's 147lb reign the IBF holds more fault at its meh-ness.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by cork View Post
          Fot some reason I don't see him fighting the champs at 154. He wants big fights and most of those guys are unknown. He might go for the vacant title after canelo vacate it after he wins but I dont see him fighting any other 154 champs just cause risk reward.
          Yea I could see Brook picking up Canelo's soon to be belt now that you bring it up & that could be the penciled in plan for his future by Hearn already.

          I think if he's looking for big fights he's gonna have to fight the 154lb title holders doe. Unless he's looking to just coast out his career having a similar reign at 154 like he had at 147 which I hope isn't the plan.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by cork View Post
            Fot some reason I don't see him fighting the champs at 154. He wants big fights and most of those guys are unknown. He might go for the vacant title after canelo vacate it after he wins but I dont see him fighting any other 154 champs just cause risk reward.

            Yeah forgot about that. I could see kell going for wbo 154lbs title.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Red Cyclone View Post
              Very normal to cut these type of weights but cutting back 30 to 40 or more is a different story why do you think Chino didn't return.
              That's why Brandon Rios got KO'd off Bradley. Apparently he was about 175 or 180 just 8 or 9 weeks before the fight.

              Not that Rios would have ever beaten Bradley, but no way does Bradley knock out Rios in any normal circumstances.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by NapalmKnuckles View Post
                But I thought Brook was now a full fledged super middleweight picking on the smaller Gennady.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by cork View Post
                  Fot some reason I don't see him fighting the champs at 154. He wants big fights and most of those guys are unknown. He might go for the vacant title after canelo vacate it after he wins but I dont see him fighting any other 154 champs just cause risk reward.
                  I don't see him beating any of the 154 champs. I don't think he could beat Austin Trout. Everyone keeps saying he'll go to 154 but if he's been having trouble making 147 like everyone likes to repeat, why hasn't he moved up there yet? Because he's most effective at 147

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by John Locke View Post
                    It'll be interesting to see how well Kell does against Golovkin if he's planning on fighting Spence next, Golovkin and Spence have a lot of similarities. Both are very sturdy pressure fighters with great skill and and ring IQ, Golovkin is better at range, Spence is better inside, but both cut the ring off well, they're both vicious body punchers, with great accuracy and timing.

                    Spence would be looking to get inside Brook more so than Golovkin, so Kell could get the better of him if he could stay on the outside and control the range, but against Golovkin, Kell can't do anything on the outside either. The huge size disadvantage obviously doesn't help.
                    Spence has a 72 inch reach and a good jab too, plus he fought on the outside a lot in his earlier fights and did it well too (hence the mayweather comparisons earlier on in his pro career). I'm pretty sure Brook will be in trouble whether he fights on the inside or the outside, especially coz of Spence's reach advantage on him.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
                      Yep agree across the board.



                      And lol solid point.

                      But I mean if he's taking on GGG he's obviously looking to take more risks at this point it would seem. And to be fair JoJo & Bizier were bs mandatory's forced upon him.

                      Now you can argue well he shoulda been more active & without recalling Brook's injuries over his reign I can't say how legit that is or isn't as a counterpoint. And for sure him fighting someone better in his voluntary than Gavin is a legit counterpoint, but 2/3's of his defenses were on the IBF not on Hearn or Brook & I'm typically a guy who's more critical of Brook than favorable so while not impressed with Brook's 147lb reign the IBF holds more fault at its meh-ness.
                      Good points! That's why I'm not a big fan of boxing organizations! What's the point of having belts, if you can't get better fights? Still it seems that when negotiations took place for Bradley, Rios, and Vargas, Hearn always came up short! Getting a fight with GGG might be a blessing in disguise, but I feel it will be a curse! Time will tell!

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