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  • Eff Pandas
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    #71
    Originally posted by therealpugilist
    if a particular fight is boring, I blame both fighters, it takes two to tango and also its up to the fighters to adjust to a style that troubles them
    Tend to agree with this. If someone can't hang with a "boring guy" thats on them too. I mean the sport of boxing is the sport of boxing & the rules don't say that you must excitingly out-punch, out-ring generalship, out-effective aggression, out-defense a guy & all that stuff just you need to do those things, excitingly or boring as f#ck or somewhere in between don't matter, to win rounds via the judges.

    If they wanna change the rules to allow for more "fun" fights fair play, but as things are writing no one is saying you gotta make things fun.

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    • betmen
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      #72
      but i wanna see them die in the ring, their children cry, their mother got heart attack because of the shock.

      wouldn't that be nice??

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        #73
        Originally posted by j0zef
        Disagree.
        95% of Pac fights are exciting.
        95% of late Floyd fights are 'boring'.

        Blaming both makes no sense.
        Didn't realize you found the Rios and Algieri fights so riveting. Nice.

        And yeah, Floyd/Canelo sure was a dull fight, wasn't it?

        Originally posted by -PBP-
        Everybody knew that going into the fight. (Except for the casualest of casuals who say things like "Mayweather will KO Tyson")

        The intrigue for that fight was that Pacquiao's speed, angles, combos, footwork and style would force Mayweather to engage (Remember "If slow as Maidana could land on Floyd, imagine what Pac could do?").

        That didn't happen. Instead of manning up and just admitting that Pac didn't have what it takes to crack the Mayvinci code, you dudes blamed Mayweather for not handicapping himself and fighting down to the level of an inferior fighter.
        Originally posted by Paulie Walnuts
        It's on the opponent to do something about it, don't blame the guy because his opponent isn't good enough to do anything about it.
        Exactly to both of you. It takes two to tango, two to move. One doesn't show up = boring fight.

        Originally posted by Chuckguy
        No it's not. I'm not ok with pot shotters running to make a point win. That is the def of boring. What's so great about a fighter pot shotting all night on his back pedal? How in the slightest is that entertaining?
        Your problem is, you equate effective movement with running. That's not how it works.

        What Eric Molina did against Wilder? THAT is running.
        What Maidana did against "No Mas" Ortiz just before the quit? THAT is running.

        None of the fighters elsewise mentioned in this thread were running - they're just not ****** enough to stand there and take unnecessary shots.

        Blame the other guy for not being able to put a stop to that tactic.

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        • Rip Chudd
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          #74
          Originally posted by NaijaD
          People are allowed to have their opinions, we all enjoy and dislike different styles.... people should not get caught up in their feelings if someone labels their favourite fighter boring.

          I like Ward and more often than not enjoy his fights especially when he's up against the best but as a fan I can still admit sometimes he's not entertaining to me, the Allan Green fight is one of the worst I've watched. I also don't find KO punchers bowling over overmatched opponents very entertaining either, basically for me there needs to be a competitive edge to the contest on paper for me to be entertained.

          Technical fighters are fun to watch against the very best but when they are in against overmatched opponents then it's difficult to enjoy because you're not impressed by them simply outboxing the guy.

          If Ward somehow does to Kov what he did to Brand then it will be highly entertaining for me because he's putting on a technical display against one of the best but that same display against a journeyman will be far less entertaining to me.
          Really? I loved the Allan Green fight, maybe because of all the trash talk leading up to it, even before Green was in the Super Six he was talking trash toward Ward and i liked how he stepped straight to him and was in this chest that whole fight and Green had no answer.

          That Brand fight was trash though, i had it on but stopped paying attention because it was so boring

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          • Chuckguy
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            #75
            Originally posted by revelated
            Didn't realize you found the Rios and Algieri fights so riveting. Nice.

            And yeah, Floyd/Canelo sure was a dull fight, wasn't it?





            Exactly to both of you. It takes two to tango, two to move. One doesn't show up = boring fight.



            Your problem is, you equate effective movement with running. That's not how it works.

            What Eric Molina did against Wilder? THAT is running.
            What Maidana did against "No Mas" Ortiz just before the quit? THAT is running.

            None of the fighters elsewise mentioned in this thread were running - they're just not ****** enough to stand there and take unnecessary shots.

            Blame the other guy for not being able to put a stop to that tactic.

            No! What Lara does in all his fights is running! What Floyd did to corrales, gatti, Canelo just to name a few was boxing at its best. He stayed in the pocket used minimal movement to make them miss and countered beautifully. There is a bid difference

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              #76
              Originally posted by just the facts
              How long have you been following boxing?


              I've told you over and over, if you can't appreciate the sport of boxing because of movement and defense (from your posts, it's obvious you can't), tune into MMA, little to no defense or movement. Right up your alley.
              no i wont follow mma, theres plenty of fighters i like watching. you, pugilist etc make me laugh, make me out to be in the minority for not enjoying watching ward, lara etc. as if im the crazy one for thinking they are boring

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                #77
                Originally posted by therealpugilist
                There have been so many ways to criticize fighters


                the silliest is when trainers and fans call fighters boring

                its not their fault their opponents and opposing trainers cant adapt to what they are doing


                should they change their style, to entertain you? you may want them to or to make their fights more competitive, but they wont

                its about winning and in a fighters mind, entertaining you is secondary, to winning and providing for their families

                Its one of the weakest criticisms ever


                I find it funny because all these fighters I've seen being dubbed as boring, are dominant, undefeated fighters who make it look easy

                it was floyd mayweather and Wlad Klitchsko before, now Andre Ward, Guillermo Rigondeaux, Terrance Crawford, and Lara(the only one with losses)


                the people who use this term, do you think its also the opponents, and the opposing trainers responsibility to adapt, instead of make excuses?
                you might need to invest in a dictionary

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Chuckguy
                  No! What Lara does in all his fights is running! What Floyd did to corrales, gatti, Canelo just to name a few was boxing at its best. He stayed in the pocket used minimal movement to make them miss and countered beautifully. There is a bid difference
                  Totally agree, was gobsmacked at Floyd walking Canelo down.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by KnockoutKings
                    how are you going to tell what is boring to somebody? if its boring, its boring lol! you mind as well people tell not to have an opinion. why is it, in a sport where two guys punch each other in the face, the fans of the sport are sensitive as f**k? waaaa they said my favorite fighter is boring. so what
                    ive lost count of how many times these clowns have called me ******, a casual, ignorant european, told me to go follow mma, because ive said i dont enjoy watching erislandy lara or wladimer klitschko

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Chuckguy
                      No! What Lara does in all his fights is running! What Floyd did to corrales, gatti, Canelo just to name a few was boxing at its best. He stayed in the pocket used minimal movement to make them miss and countered beautifully. There is a bid difference
                      yeah ive made that same point a few times, doesnt surprise me they havent responded to you, cause they never have when ive said it. what mayweather does isnt boring, when lara runs around the ring from people, now that is boring

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