the term BORING means "wins fights clearly/hard to beat" on NSB

[New England]

Does fighting and KOing vastly inferior opponents mitigate excitement in any way?

it's objectively much more exciting to see no hoper A fighting for his life than no hoper A bottling it and surviving for 8 rounds.

[The Big Dunn]

it's objectively much more exciting to see no hoper A fighting for his life than no hoper A bottling it and surviving for 8 rounds.

I think the difference is the no hoper A that gets KO'd isn't much of a fighter and has no chance to win. But no hoper A that loses the 8 rounds is a top fighter that many believe has a chance to win.

So, as an example we have Canelo/Trout, Canelo/Lara, Canelo/Kahn and Canelo/Kirkland.

Which of these was truly "exciting"?

[New England]

I think the difference is the no hoper A that gets KO'd isn't much of a fighter and has no chance to win. But no hoper A that loses the 8 rounds is a top fighter that many believe has a chance to win.

So, as an example we have Canelo/Trout, Canelo/Lara, Canelo/Kahn and Canelo/Kirkland.

Which of these was truly "exciting"?

no hoper a is the same fighter in both instances.


he gets outboxed in one fight, and stops really trying after 4 rounds. boring decision.


he gets beat up in the other fight. he can't stop trying if he wants to, because ass whipper x is going to knock him out. objectively more exciting than a boring decision.



your biases can manifest however you'd like them to. still doesn't change the fact taht an objective person finds it more exciting to see a guy forced to fight and get knocked out than it does to watch a guy give up and get away with surviving for 8 rounds.

[-PBP-]

There are a lot of poster on NSB who claim to be fans of boxing but expose themselves daily as casual fans or fans of fighters.

The beauty of the sport of boxing is that there are so many different styles. If you don't like a particular style....dont watch. Why ***** and complain about it being boring just don't watch.

For every Mike Tyson there is a Sweet Pea, for every Duran there is a Willie Pep.

I like a skilled defensive fighter who neutralizes an opponents offense like Ward, and I also like a guy that can bash like Kov. So I am excited to see these two in the ring together. STYLES MAKE FIGHTS.

I haven't watch GGG since the Monroe fight, because I find it boring seeing him fight no hopers.

People here have called Floyd boring. I think that is nonsense. When he was beating the brakes off Gatti and Correles he was far from boring.

The first Maidana fight was far from boring. Why? because Maidana decided he was going to go balls to the wall and NOT LET Floyd pot shot him for 12 rounds. Floyd showed his excellent in-fighting skills and came away with a victory.

Floyd Pac was boring because Pac came to collect a check and not get knocked out. Hence he said "if he stop moving, I hit him".

It is not Floyd's job to stop moving, it is Pac's job to cut him off and make him fight like Maidana did.

If you find a guy boring, then he will stay that way unless he is in with a guy that can pressure him into doing something different.

Ward will always be boring to some until someone forces him into a fight where he has to do something different. GGG will be questioned by many until he is in with someone who can force him into fighting a different style.

That is what boxing is in a nutshell. One guy IMPOSING his will/style on his opponent. The great ones do it better than the rest.

Probably the best post I've seen all year on this forum. Good stuff.

[The Big Dunn]

no hoper a is the same fighter in both instances.


he gets outboxed in one fight, and stops really trying after 4 rounds. boring decision.


he gets beat up in the other fight. he can't stop trying if he wants to, because ass whipper x is going to knock him out. objectively more exciting than a boring decision.



your biases can manifest however you'd like them to. still doesn't change the fact taht an objective person finds it more exciting to see a guy forced to fight and get knocked out than it does to watch a guy give up and get away with surviving for 8 rounds.

you didn't answer the question you changed it to fit your perspective.

I am asking about the A side. we don't watch fights for the opponent so no hoper A isn't the same guy.

An example of your point would be Berto- FLoyd/Berto, Ortiz/Berto, Soto Karass/Berto and Ghost/Berto. In this case, yes Floyd/Berto was the least exciting of all the fights. Obviously, Floyd was much better than Berto and shouldn't have been fighting him.

Now can you please answer the question I posed.

[The Big Dunn]

There are a lot of poster on NSB who claim to be fans of boxing but expose themselves daily as casual fans or fans of fighters.

The beauty of the sport of boxing is that there are so many different styles. If you don't like a particular style....dont watch. Why ***** and complain about it being boring just don't watch.

For every Mike Tyson there is a Sweet Pea, for every Duran there is a Willie Pep.

I like a skilled defensive fighter who neutralizes an opponents offense like Ward, and I also like a guy that can bash like Kov. So I am excited to see these two in the ring together. STYLES MAKE FIGHTS.

I haven't watch GGG since the Monroe fight, because I find it boring seeing him fight no hopers.

People here have called Floyd boring. I think that is nonsense. When he was beating the brakes off Gatti and Correles he was far from boring.

The first Maidana fight was far from boring. Why? because Maidana decided he was going to go balls to the wall and NOT LET Floyd pot shot him for 12 rounds. Floyd showed his excellent in-fighting skills and came away with a victory.

Floyd Pac was boring because Pac came to collect a check and not get knocked out. Hence he said "if he stop moving, I hit him".

It is not Floyd's job to stop moving, it is Pac's job to cut him off and make him fight like Maidana did.

If you find a guy boring, then he will stay that way unless he is in with a guy that can pressure him into doing something different.

Ward will always be boring to some until someone forces him into a fight where he has to do something different. GGG will be questioned by many until he is in with someone who can force him into fighting a different style.

That is what boxing is in a nutshell. One guy IMPOSING his will/style on his opponent. The great ones do it better than the rest.

greenk sent. good post.