the term BORING means "wins fights clearly/hard to beat" on NSB

[Dean_Razorback]

I hate GGG

GGG is the reason of every single one of his threads, directly or indirectly

[Zaroku]

I hate GGG

GGG is alright, it his fanboy's (fanny boys) the I hate.

[therealpugilist]

Not at all. Wlad was defeated and is boring. Orlando Salido was defeated but is not boring. Pac was defeated and is not boring. Eleidar Alvarez is undefeated, highly ranked, but is boring as hell to watch.

I think the better argument would be that there is a certain skillset that makes the fight boring, and that skillset is often practiced by men and women who are good boxers. So you combine someone who's a great boxer and masters a defensive skillset, and you end up with a boring, difficult to defeat fighter.

Trying to make this about any specific fighter or race is ******. There are boring white guys and exciting african american fighters. Hell, the poster boy for 'boring', Floyd, was a pretty exciting fighter to watch in his early years - when he still carried power.

if a particular fight is boring, I blame both fighters, it takes two to tango and also its up to the fighters to adjust to a style that troubles them

[Motofan]

There have been so many ways to criticize fighters


the silliest is when trainers and fans call fighters boring

its not their fault their opponents and opposing trainers cant adapt to what they are doing


should they change their style, to entertain you? you may want them to or to make their fights more competitive, but they wont

its about winning and in a fighters mind, entertaining you is secondary, to winning and providing for their families

Its one of the weakest criticisms ever


I find it funny because all these fighters I've seen being dubbed as boring, are dominant, undefeated fighters who make it look easy

it was floyd mayweather and Wlad Klitchsko before, now Andre Ward, Guillermo Rigondeaux, Terrance Crawford, and Lara(the only one with losses)


the people who use this term, do you think its also the opponents, and the opposing trainers responsibility to adapt, instead of make excuses?

Floyd was a goddamn beast at the lighter weights. I never really found "Money" boring, but he just did enough to win. Can't fault him there as he can retire with his head still intact, but he rarely excited me in the later years.

If Wlad didn't get knockouts most of the time he would be unwatchable.

Ward can be boring or he can be very entertaining. It depends on who he fights. Usually he spoils too much for my taste.

Rigo...it really depends on which Rigo shows up. Sometimes he looks like an absolute beast. Other times he acts like he hardly wants to be there and does almost nothing. He is frustrating because he usually takes zero chances against guys he has horribly outgunned.

Crawford isn't boring. People saying that I can't agree with.

Lara has had multiple fights where he just slapped with ZERO power and sprinted around the ring. Those fights are unwatchable.

[-PBP-]

i guess boring is in the eye of the beholder....I remember back in the day people labeled roy jones boring, but I found him entertaining.


the mini concert before fights, shimmy, shaking and dipsey dooing mid fight, and mind you, the guys was clowning world class opposition

it just seem like they were upset his fights were more competitive, but thats not entirely his fault.

Boring matchups typically result from mismatches/bad style matchups.

Maidana throws punches from awkward angles, developed a solid jab and improved his ability to cut off the ring which made his fight with Mayweather "exciting"

Manny Pacquiao can't cut off the ring and has no jab, which made his fight with Mayweather "boring"

Then you have Crawford/Postol.....

Postol is a very fundamentally sound/disciplined boxer. But Postol needs to set his feet to throw a punch. Can't cut off the ring. Hates to have to lead. So it's a question of, do you expose him for the limited fighter that he is, or do you throw him a lifeline and try to create action?

To me it's about "win now, entertain later".

Remember all of the Matthysse and Ruslan threads that used to pop up? Once they started losing these threads discontinued. They took those beatings for the fans enjoyment and now the fans stopped talking about them.

[j0zef]

if a particular fight is boring, I blame both fighters, it takes two to tango and also its up to the fighters to adjust to a style that troubles them

Disagree.
95% of Pac fights are exciting.
95% of late Floyd fights are 'boring'.

Blaming both makes no sense.

[Madison Boxing]

what you lot dont seem to understand is that you can win and still be exciting. being a winner doesnt mean you have to have an ugly style and have no fans.

[-PBP-]

Disagree.
95% of Pac fights are exciting.
95% of late Floyd fights are 'boring'.

Blaming both makes no sense.

Everybody knew that going into the fight. (Except for the casualest of casuals who say things like "Mayweather will KO Tyson")

The intrigue for that fight was that Pacquiao's speed, angles, combos, footwork and style would force Mayweather to engage (Remember "If slow as Maidana could land on Floyd, imagine what Pac could do?").

That didn't happen. Instead of manning up and just admitting that Pac didn't have what it takes to crack the Mayvinci code, you dudes blamed Mayweather for not handicapping himself and fighting down to the level of an inferior fighter.

[IFightDirty]

Sometimes using boring as an adjective is just that, an adjective to describe someones style. It usually is meant to be used as an insult but sometimes its just used as a descriptive word. Its like the word fat. Usually its used as an insult but sometimes its correct to call someone fat even though it might be a bit insulting.

Some fighters are boring and that's ok. And thinking a fighter is boring is ok too. As long as you can give credit to a fighter whether they're exciting or boring its whats important. Some fighters arent my cup of tea to watch but I can respect their level of skill. Same with a football or basketball team that isn't flashy but are fundamentally sound. Games might not be exciting but you respect their game. Might prefer to watch a slightly inferior team that puts up more points but doesnt mean you dont acknowledge the other teams talent.

[Zaroku]

Disagree.
95% of Pac fights are exciting.
95% of late Floyd fights are 'boring'.

Blaming both makes no sense.

PAC was easy work. Everyone knew Floyd was gonna fight his fight, PAC is one dimensional, with a weak jab. Marquez 4 was exciting and PAC paid for it.

Did you love that vicious KO of the year? He was out three minutes. If he had more tools in his limited tool chest, he could have beaten JMM.