Comments Thread For: 30 Day Weights: Gennady Golovkin 165, Kell Brook 176!

[Mr. Luthor]

Many 154s fight weighing 170. I'm missing your point.

Yet Golovkin has never weighed in at 154 so that doesn't apply to him. He's been a 160 lb boxer for his entire 10 year career. There's a reason for that.

[_Maxi]

Explain to me how Brook going up 9lb after the weigh-in makes him a huge WW, but Golovkin going up 11lbs makes him a small MW.

Always coming up with a new response. I don't know if Brook's fight night weight shown against Porter was accurate.
Brook himself says he's a huge welterweight. His size alone makes him a big welterweight. He's taller than most WW's at 5'9'' 1/2.

He is weighing now 176 pounds, and he's not fat as some of you say. He was very cut in the weigh in picture you shown at 147, but that's a pre fight weigh in and most fighters look cut because they don't have many water in their bodies. When Hearn said Brook was weighin 178 most of you said it wasn't true. Now you find a different response. Accept that Brook is a huge WW.

Regarding Golovkin being a small MW, the answer is simple.

Golovkin has been outweighed in every fight at MW. Sometimes by 2 pounds, sometimes by 5 pounds, but he's always outweighed.

[Mr. Luthor]

Isnt 159 below 160? Just sayin...

Are you unaware that the Middleweight Division is commonly referred to as the 160 pound division? So for you clarification, Golovkin has never fought below the Middleweight a.k.a 160 pound division and Golovkin routinely officially weighs in at 159 pounds.

[Mr. Luthor]

His fight night weight is the same than most JMWs... for example Trout comes in at 171. Canelo at 170-175.

He seems to have problems cutting more weight or believes that he can fight better if he doesn't have to cut more than 10 lbs.

Also he comes from a culture where 2+2 equals 4. I mean, old school, he respects the sport. If you are middleweight, you fight at middleweight. He is not a cheater that would cut 20 pounds to fight smaller guys.

That's laughable. Please provide us with the proof that Golovkin's Middleweight opponents are not also rehydrating into the 170's just like Golovkin.

Golovkin fighting his entire career at Middleweight, means he is a Middleweight. That's a pretty simple concept.....35 out of 35 career fights at Middleweight....you're a Middleweight.

Obviously you are confused about old school. Old school would mean Golovkin weighing in at 160 or below the day of the fight and not being a Light Heavyweight when the bell rings. The only true Middleweight Champion of the past decade has been Cotto.

[Joe Beamish]

Golovkin vs Brook is a fight between 2 unbeaten world champions, each arguably the best in his own division, with a combined record of 71 - 0.

It's going to be watched by 10X as many fans as Kovalev vs Ward, if that one ever happens, and it's going to be an exciting and entertaining fight that will do nothing but good for the sport.

If you're not excited by it, fine. Piss off and go talk about something you are actually interested in and know a fuck about.

This is where I am. Let 'em fight. Other guys (duran, leonard) have jumped weight classes without necessarily taking easy fights first to get them ready. They had great success doing so. And while Brook isn't necessarily on their level, he's undefeated and everybody knows he's an enormous welter weight.

No bonafide "middleweight" allowed himself to be available in September for Golovkin. As usual! So Brook jumped at the opportunity. He brings major fans -- from a place where boxing is still a thrillingly mainstream sport.

A lot of people here think Golovkin isn't any good. Well, then you probably think he'll lose this bout, right?

Let 'em fight.

[j0zef]

That's laughable. Please provide us with the proof that Golovkin's Middleweight opponents are not also rehydrating into the 170's just like Golovkin.

Golovkin fighting his entire career at Middleweight, means he is a Middleweight. That's a pretty simple concept.....35 out of 35 career fights at Middleweight....you're a Middleweight.

Obviously you are confused about old school. Old school would mean Golovkin weighing in at 160 or above the day of the fight and not being a Light Heavyweight when the bell rings. The only true Middleweight Champion of the past decade has been Cotto.

Golovkin has rehydrated to 172/3 once or twice in last 15 fights. The rest he's been between 168-170. Against both Wade and Lemieux, he was 170 while both his opponents were 175.

If Golovkin started earlier as a pro, he would have fought at 154 until he was 30.

[_Maxi]

That's laughable. Please provide us with the proof that Golovkin's Middleweight opponents are not also rehydrating into the 170's just like Golovkin.

Golovkin fighting his entire career at Middleweight, means he is a Middleweight. That's a pretty simple concept.....35 out of 35 career fights at Middleweight....you're a Middleweight.

Obviously you are confused about old school. Old school would mean Golovkin weighing in at 160 or above the day of the fight and not being a Light Heavyweight when the bell rings. The only true Middleweight Champion of the past decade has been Cotto.

Fighters even on the old days used to cut weight. The amount Golovkin cuts (10 pounds) is not high. It's pretty average even for the old days. Guys cuttin 15-20 lbs is what's insane, such as Canelo. But that's a different story.

Yes, Golovkin is a middleweight. But a middleweight that has been outweighed at almost every fight he had. He had a fight where he outweighed Proksa (168vs166) and another one where he weighed the same than Macklin (170vs170). Other than that he's always outweighed.

[GGG Gloveking]

Are you unaware that the Middleweight Division is commonly referred to as the 160 pound division? So for you clarification, Golovkin has never fought below the Middleweight a.k.a 160 pound division and Golovkin routinely officially weighs in at 159 pounds.

Lol. Dont take my joke seriously, bro. I fully understand your point. But all this rehydration and fight night weight talk really makes me wish they would return to same day weigh ins. That would end a lot of the "so and so blows up to X weight", or "so and so outweighs dude by so many pounds". Step on the scale, then step in the ring...

[Mr. Luthor]

Golovkin has rehydrated to 172/3 once or twice in last 15 fights. The rest he's been between 168-170. Against both Wade and Lemieux, he was 170 while both his opponents were 175.

If Golovkin started earlier as a pro, he would have fought at 154 until he was 30.

Like I said, Golovkin is a Light Heavyweight on fight night......just like his opponents.

Golovkin was a Amateur Middleweight since 2003. That weight class is between 152-165 pounds. This simply means that Golovkin has been a Middleweight, amateur and professional, for 13 years which would also mean since he was about 21 yrs old.

[Mr. Luthor]

Fighters even on the old days used to cut weight. The amount Golovkin cuts (10 pounds) is not high. It's pretty average even for the old days. Guys cuttin 15-20 lbs is what's insane, such as Canelo. But that's a different story.

Yes, Golovkin is a middleweight. But a middleweight that has been outweighed at almost every fight he had. He had a fight where he outweighed Proksa (168vs166) and another one where he weighed the same than Macklin (170vs170). Other than that he's always outweighed.

I asked you for proof but you failed to provide any. Please tell us where the Golovkin and opponents fight night weights are displayed.

On the other hand.....

http://boxrec.com/boxer/356831

Golovkin 159 lbs vs Wade 159.6 lbs
Golovkin 159.4 lbs vs Lemieux 159.8 lbs
Golovkin 159 lbs vs Monroe 160 lbs
Golovkin 159 vs Murray 159.75
Golovkin 159 vs Rubio 161.75
Golovkin 159.75 vs Geale 159.25
Golovkin 159.5 vs Adama 159.25
Golovkin 159.5 vs Stevens 159.25
Golovkin 159 vs Macklin 159
Golovkin 159.5 vs Ishida 159.5
Golovkin 160 vs Rosado 159