Comments Thread For: 30 Day Weights: Gennady Golovkin 165, Kell Brook 176!

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    #411
    Originally posted by Mr. Luthor
    "He's more like a 154" but has never fought below 160 in his entire 10 year professional career, weigh's in at 159 and show up on fight as a Light Heavyweight.

    Yeah that makes perfect sense.
    Many 154s fight weighing 170. I'm missing your point.

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      #412
      Originally posted by Mr. Luthor
      "He's more like a 154" but has never fought below 160 in his entire 10 year professional career, weigh's in at 159 and show up on fight as a Light Heavyweight.

      Yeah that makes perfect sense.
      Isnt 159 below 160? Just sayin...

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      • Eastcoast
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        #413
        Originally posted by kafkod
        The flip side to that is something Kell Brook's trainer, Dominic Ingle, and his strength and conditioning coach at Sheffield Sports Academy mentioned: Kell had to severly cut his calorie intake for weeks during training for fights at 147, which affected his ability to train hard. Without worrying about the weight, he can eat properly and train harder for Golovkin, which will make his fitness level higher.
        That's true too and hopefully it helps make him a much stronger fighter. He's not adding weight like Khan did and looking soft, he's simply not cutting as much.

        However some guys simply aren't used to carrying that extra weight during an actual fight - they're not leaned out. And then he'll be fighting a naturally bigger man, so he'll need to load more on his shots and he's going to be absorbing more power than he's accustomed too. Add in Gennady's pressure, I would think Brook's best interest is maximizing his stamina.

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        • FrankieClutch
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          #414
          Originally posted by Joe Beamish
          Isn't there a first time for every fighter that moves up? Where he's never previously faced an opponent who weighed as much?

          I don't get it. He's an undefeated, large WW moving up. He's skipping 154, but that class didn't even exist back in the day.

          Is he going to die in the ring against Golovkin? Pretty much. But let him take his chance. Nobody at MW was going to fight Golovkin in September.

          Let 'em fight. Jeez.
          Well my whole philosophy is to get acclimated to the weight first. I don't like when a fighter jumps right up (especially 2 weight classes) and fights the best guy there.

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          • _Maxi
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            #415
            Originally posted by Mr. Luthor
            "He's more like a 154" but has never fought below 160 in his entire 10 year professional career, weigh's in at 159 and show up on fight as a Light Heavyweight.

            Yeah that makes perfect sense.
            His fight night weight is the same than most JMWs... for example Trout comes in at 171. Canelo at 170-175.

            He seems to have problems cutting more weight or believes that he can fight better if he doesn't have to cut more than 10 lbs.

            Also he comes from a culture where 2+2 equals 4. I mean, old school, he respects the sport. If you are middleweight, you fight at middleweight. He is not a cheater that would cut 20 pounds to fight smaller guys.

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              #416
              Originally posted by _Maxi
              His fight night weight is the same than most JMWs... for example Trout comes in at 171. Canelo at 170-175.

              He seems to have problems cutting more weight or believes that he can fight better if he doesn't have to cut more than 10 lbs.

              Also he comes from a culture where 2+2 equals 4. I mean, old school, he respects the sport. If you are middleweight, you fight at middleweight. He is not a cheater that would cut 20 pounds to fight smaller guys.
              Crawford comes in the same size as Brook, does that make Brook a 140 fighter?

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              • _Maxi
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                #417
                Originally posted by Paulie Walnuts
                Crawford comes in the same size as Brook, does that make Brook a 140 fighter?
                Crawford is an exception. JMW's coming in at 170 are not an exception. More like the rule. You get dumber everyday. Go get a girlfriend or something.

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                • Robbie Barrett
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                  #418
                  Originally posted by _Maxi
                  Crawford is an exception. JMW's coming in at 170 are not an exception. More like the rule. You get dumber everyday. Go get a girlfriend or something.
                  Explain to me how Brook going up 9lb after the weigh-in makes him a huge WW, but Golovkin going up 11lbs makes him a small MW.

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                  • _Maxi
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                    #419
                    Jermall Charlo VS Lenny Bottai - Contested at Light Middleweight
                    Charlo: 170

                    Erislandy Lara VS Ishe Smith - Contested at Light Middleweight
                    Lara: 170.5

                    Demetrius Andrade VS Vanes Martirosyan - Contested at Light Middleweight
                    Andrade: 166

                    Erislandy Lara VS Alfredo Angulo - Contested at Light Middleweight

                    Lara: 164
                    Angulo: 174

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                    • Mr. Luthor
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                      #420
                      Originally posted by ////
                      Many 154s fight weighing 170. I'm missing your point.
                      Yet Golovkin has never weighed in at 154 so that doesn't apply to him. He's been a 160 lb boxer for his entire 10 year career. There's a reason for that.

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