Comments Thread For: 30 Day Weights: Gennady Golovkin 165, Kell Brook 176!

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  • kafkod
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    #201
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    I get you like GGG and are looking at this as best you can but when you post this you look really bad.

    You know that HBO isn't likely going to approve any tough fights for GGG between now and Canelo. Just 2-3 tuneups, the same thing you have been killing Ward for doing before Kov.
    GTFOH! This business about HBO protecting GGG is pure crap. Golovkin doesn't need protecting from anyone and is looking to fight the best opponents he can.

    You can't compare Kell Brook to Brand and HBO had no part in making or funding this fight anyway. It's a Matchroom/Sky PPV show.

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      #202
      Originally posted by rasdun
      it doesn't matter what fighters are "use to". I don't think the debate is whehter its harder to move up in weight - obviously it is. What many are saying is that Brook is bigger than most welterweights, guys like Tim Bradley, Danny Garcia, Robert Guererro, Andre Berto (although not sure about Thurman and Porter) - which he is
      Of course hell it matters, on record Bradley has said that he's gone as high as 180+ between camps, so he should be fighting Kovalev? hell no, one punch from the Krusher and Bradley is in coma.

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      • rasdun
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        #203
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        don't just blame Canelo. GGG kept taking step aside money prior to this. he didn't have to do that.

        Yes, you hold HBO accountable and do not watch. I haven't watched a Stevenson fight in a while. I didn't watch the Ward/brand BS this week. I still watch other cards, fox, espn, soleo boxeo etc.

        GGG's next 2-3 fights will be crap. Same as Canelo. Each fight will be 80/20-90/10 mismatches where Canelo or GGG look great to setup the Sept 2017 fight.

        Brook is there for the same reason Kahn fought canelo-big name with no chance to win. Please lets not act Like Brook-whose 1 quality win is Porter-is a tough fight.

        This isn't a case where the best WW has cleaned out the division and is going up like SRL/Hagler or Floyd/Canelo. Brook very well could lose to thurman, spence , kahn, or bradley.
        GGG took step aside $ maybe bc he knew Cotto and Canelo would just vacate anyway - so why not get paid if you're not getting the fight with them regardless. and, Well, I guess we'll agree to disagree, I don't think GGG v. Brook is crap at all. Brook has not cleaned out the division, not by a long way. But, he's a big undefeated welterweight champion who can box and has a punch. I'd way rather see this fight than Eubank, Andy Lee, or most of the other top 10 ranked middles

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          #204
          Originally posted by Paulie Walnuts
          Brook - 147 to 156 fight night weight = 9lbs
          Golovkin - 160 to 171 fight night weight = 11lbs

          Irrelevant.

          They are both going to be weighing in at 160 with a 10lb max rehydration limit on noon of fight day for this one.

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            #205
            Originally posted by rasdun
            Exactly. Brook is a 5-1 underdog in the books. Guaranteed Eubank would've been a 20-1 underdog - for good reason. Bc he had no shot to win. Anyone that doesn't think Brook is a better fight than Eubank, I tend to question their boxing knowledge
            I think u know more than professionals, I've seen a lot of vidz from fighters, trainers, reporters, newmedia who 95% all of them have said that stilystically and weight wise, Eubank would've been a bigger challenge than Brook, but I'm almost sure u know more than that people, so props and respect to your wisdom and knowledge.

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              #206
              Originally posted by batista84
              Of course hell it matters, on record Bradley has said that he's gone as high as 180+ between camps, so he should be fighting Kovalev? hell no, one punch from the Krusher and Bradley is in coma.
              you're completely misunderstanding my statement. I didn't say that guys should fight at their walking around weight, did I?
              What I was saying is that, regardless as to whether Brook is "used to" fighting middleweights, he is bigger than most welterweights. GGG is not a big middle. the size difference, in and of itself, is not that great. Thats the point many were making

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                #207
                Originally posted by kafkod
                GTFOH! This business about HBO protecting GGG is pure crap. Golovkin doesn't need protecting from anyone and is looking to fight the best opponents he can.

                You can't compare Kell Brook to Brand and HBO had no part in making or funding this fight anyway. It's a Matchroom/Sky PPV show.
                That's an awesome delusional statement. So the best happens to be a WW? How about you GTFOH.

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                  #208
                  Brook 176 and he looks ripped!

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                    #209
                    Originally posted by rasdun
                    even if Brook does get slaughtered, then more props to GGG. Middleweights have been fighting welter champs for 100 years. I really don't understand why all of a sudden a legit, undefeated 147 lb champ is considered a bad fight for a middleweigt champ
                    Because that undefeated 147 champ isn't even top 147, hell, Bradley and Pacquiao would beat him easy time, Thurman and Spence would have a very high chance of beating him.

                    and that unproven 147 "undefeated champ" is going up 2 full classes to fight a guy whos destroying guys his own size, this **** ain't Duran vs Hagler by not even a slight margin.

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                      #210
                      Originally posted by batista84
                      I think u know more than professionals, I've seen a lot of vidz from fighters, trainers, reporters, newmedia who 95% all of them have said that stilystically and weight wise, Eubank would've been a bigger challenge than Brook, but I'm almost sure u know more than that people, so props and respect to your wisdom and knowledge.
                      I don't know what you mean by professionals. I have managed boxers in the past and worked for boxing promoters, I know just as much or more as reporters, news media. Plus, I am just giving my opinion. Still further, Eubank had the fight if he wanted it. Thats from his own promoter, not GGG. Id personally rather see GGG v Brook - my opinion, thats all. If you or others think differently, thats fine. But GGG took the Brook fight bc Eubank wouldnt take it, thats fact

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