Why were Floyd fans fine with Berto, but upset over Vargas?

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  • massa of demos
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    #41
    Originally posted by revelated
    Difference:

    Andre Berto - fresh off one of his best overall performances, KO'ing the guy that broke Ortiz's jaw.

    Jessie Vargas - A guy with a roughly 30% KO record, fresh off of basically exposing a hyped Sadam Ali after getting literally embarrassed by Tim Bradley across 11.9 rounds and getting handed Tim's leftovers that he should never have had to surrender in the first place.

    Now, if I calculate which of these two fighters is actually more dangerous, I'm leaning towards Berto.

    That's why.
    HAHAHAH yeah theg uy who broke Ortiz's jaw how many years before? And Ortiz was never anything special, just like "Ali", he was a hypejob. And how many times has this guy lost since? He beat a freaking journeyman in Josesito and was getting outboxed. Are you actually trying to insinuate that Joseisto was a better win than Ali? LOL!!!

    Here's the difference.

    Vargas is a world champion, floyd fans always cry he fought 20+ world champs doooe. Vargas win over Ali is FAR better than Josesito. And Berto got the breaks beaten off him by Guerrero, and lost to SOTO KARRASS LOL. SOTO KARASS, please.

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    • massa of demos
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      #42
      Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
      Make a thread on it, you'd find people more willing to engage you in this conversation, trust me. I'm not gonna waste my time trying to explain why a fighter who's clearly more talented than those three, well...is.
      If you dont have an argument keep quiet, and take your loss. Postol is garbage, he's one dimensional, he went lief and death with Lundy, and beat a shot Matthyse. BIG WHOOP.

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      • HanzGruber
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        #43
        Not reading that long ass post lol. Nobody have a *** about the berto fight. And nobody gives a *** about this fight. It does nothing for PAC he needs to stay retired

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          #44
          Originally posted by casualfan
          Here's the difference.

          Vargas is a world champion
          Vargas has a belt because Bradley was forced to vacate. Period. Had that not happened, Vargas would still be a nobody without a title.

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            #45
            Originally posted by HanzGruber
            Not reading that long ass post lol. Nobody have a *** about the berto fight. And nobody gives a *** about this fight. It does nothing for PAC he needs to stay retired
            Yep both were fights we dont want to see, but one is 100000x better than the other.

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              #46
              Originally posted by revelated
              Vargas has a belt because Bradley was forced to vacate. Period. Had that not happened, Vargas would still be a nobody without a title.
              And he's still a world champ, he beat an Ali who was highly regarded. What did Berto do? He beat Josesito Lopez who was outboxing him LMFAO, and also lost to Soto Karass LOL.

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              • Rip Chudd
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                #47
                Nobody defended the Berto fight. Unless you count people not caring because it was Floyd's retirement fight as defending it. That fight got crapped on all over these forums. It was a fight that shouldn't have been made and did nothing for his career just as this Vargas fight is no reason for Pac to come back as it does nothing for his career. Comparing turds to see which one smells better is just dumb

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                • massa of demos
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Rip Chudd
                  Nobody defended the Berto fight. Unless you count people not caring because it was Floyd's retirement fight as defending it. That fight got crapped on all over these forums. It was a fight that shouldn't have been made and did nothing for his career just as this Vargas fight is no reason for Pac to come back as it does nothing for his career. Comparing turds to see which one smells better is just dumb
                  Nice excuse. Berto and Vargas is not even comparable. One guy is a world champ, who is coming off a career best win, the other lost to Soto Karass LMAO. Can you *****s stop bringing up how many world champs floyd has beat if you're that upset over this?

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by casualfan
                    Nice excuse. Berto and Vargas is not even comparable. One guy is a world champ, who is coming off a career best win, the other lost to Soto Karass LMAO. Can you *****s stop bringing up how many world champs floyd has beat if you're that upset over this?
                    What are you even talking about, when did I bring up how many world champs he fought? And what excuse did I make? I told the truth that the fight got crapped on and nobody cared about it. You're sitting here trying to justify the Vargas fight by talking about Floyd. Nobody cares about either fight as they do nothing for either fighter's career. I see you have a hard time understanding that. @ coming off career best win, Vargas won a vacated title by beating a prospect

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                    • Spoon23
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by casualfan
                      Vargas is levels above Berto, but you see the same floyd fans that were defending this garbage fight get mad at Manny for fighting a world champion. Floyd fans have to be the biggest hypocrites ever. Would I rather see Crawford? DUH. But same could be said about Berto who is a worse opponent, and not even a world champion. This guy lost to Soto freaking Karass ffs. The *****s will start bringing up how Berto beat this guy and that guy YEARS ago before he was busted on PEDS, and wont bring up how he got destroyed by Guerrero, stopped by Karass, and has just looked awful.

                      More hypocrisy from Floyd fans are when they get upset over GGG bringing up Brook 2 weight classes, but then they always boast about how Floyd schooled Marquez after bringing him up 2 weight classes and cheating him on the scales.

                      I'm not a fanboy of either Pac or GGG, I just find Floyd fans to be the most nuthugging shameless fans in boxing.
                      Dang! You just threw a nuclear attack on the TMT team lmao

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