Why were Floyd fans fine with Berto, but upset over Vargas?

[Combat Talk Radio]

I don't even know why people doesn't like Berto, he is never in a boring fight, his losses besides the Floyd fight, had been wars, he is fast, powerful, explosive and with a bad chin, he got everything you need for great fight.

Berto saltied fans when he got handled by Ortiz, tried to act like Floyd against Guerrero (and ended up with two closed eyes as a result) and despite his build, can't really seem to "dominate" unless his opponent is shot.

There was once a time Berto was looked at as the next big thing alongside Victor. When they fought it was one of the greatest fights, but it exposed flaws in both that we're now seeing.

[Larry the boss]

Seriously I hope this fight does 0 PPV's. Everyone should Refuse to buy it.

I just hope after the Vargas fight that everyone is demanding the Epic quadrilogy Bradley 4 the fans are crying for it. Then Marquez 5. Seriously though why is Pac unretiring for this dull fight?

Pacs never even fought a natural Welterweight Thurman KO's Pac retire his money>legacy a$$ for good.

Were Clottey and Margo not natural ww's? you can slam him for a lot of things but what you posted is not one..and Thurman hasnt ko'd anyone in how long?

[ShoulderRoll]

Nobody gave Floyd a pass for Berto, everyone crapped on that fight. But he had just beaten Pacquiao and it was supposedly the last bout of his career so a lot of people felt he earned the right to go out on his own terms.

Pacquiao isn't retired. And he has had 3 fights recently that no one asked for: Algieri, Rios, and Bradley 3.

If he is going to keep fighting then no one wants to see him continue to cherry pick mediocre foes like that. Whats the point of continuing on if he's not going to fight the best?

[Spoon23]

Nobody gave Floyd a pass for Berto, everyone crapped on that fight. But he had just beaten Pacquiao and it was supposedly the last bout of his career so a lot of people felt he earned the right to go out on his own terms.

Pacquiao isn't retired. And he has had 3 fights recently that no one asked for: Algieri, Rios, and Bradley 3.

If he is going to keep fighting then no one wants to see him continue to cherry pick mediocre foes like that. Whats the point of continuing on if he's not going to fight the best?

There is only one man he should fight to clear the air who really deserves the win on the first one. But sadly, even if majority of the boxing fans saw a boxer run and hug for 12 rounds which left most boxing fans disappointed for such a lousy performance in a super fight. Floyd and Manny should redeem themselves to cleanse that embarrassment of a super fight. Floyd, didn't deserve a penny from that lousy display of fighting ***** as evident to the boos from the MGM grand and around the world for such a sorry display of marathon boxing. The cat kept chasing a mouse with occasional intimate hugging to add to the spoil of the event.

Your man Floyd doesn't want to show up to fix this mess up, and do a final fight with Pac and bow down to the world in a final showdown for the world to see. They can fix this by fighting each other again and try to remove the IV gate scandal, the Bayless effect, the lopsided score card of Dave Moretti, etc etc

You can't blame Pac for fighting others, when Floyd doesn't want to step up to the plate. As an old fighter, both of them only have each other to fight and then ride off to the sunset. Pac's fighting style has a lot of miles of wear and tear in him. I believe he only has 2 fights left. The first is a stay active fight, the next if not floyd will be crawford.

But, regarding pac and may, Like all good rivals need a rematch or even a trilogy. This one still has no closure. You can't blame Pac for fighting. His hoping Floyd shows up. His saving what's left in his old body for Floyd.

That said.. That's wishful thinking for Pac. Floyd won't show up. He got away sticking IVS in his system, false compubox, biased judging and fat pocket Bayless saved him. Fake USADA testing. Floyd won't con the public the second time around. He can't. The world will be watching.

So stay retired Pac.

[GGGroupies]

Neither fight is good. The main difference is that Mayweather came off fighting Pacquiao and essentially had no other options to choose from. Plus it was his retirement fight.

Pacquiao has the option of Crawford, however, it seems as though the members of his team aren't a fan of his style and would rather take on Vargas. No one wants to see Pac vs Vargas.

[-Kev-]

Well I am one of the biggest Floyd fans on this forum and didn't care about the Berto fight nor did I buy it. Also, I haven't spoken about Pacquiao's return fight because I don't care about that either, unless it's Crawford, i'm saying now yes I would care. If it's Vargas, I have nothing to say or talk about it. Looking around, it doesn't seem like any actual Floyd fans are vocal against Pac's opponent. So it looks like you're fabricating things or took one thread from one poster out of proportion

[$tate of Mind]

I didn't like the Berto fight. However, Floyd didn't come out of retirement to fight Berto. The Vargas fight means nothing and isn't compelling in any way. Why come out of retirement for Jesse Vargas???

[Larry the boss]

Manny is 37 almost 38 years old and has had an ATG career who cares who he fights to be honest..it just seems like he will be one of those old ATG'S who stays around to long and takes losses to lesser fighters..sad

[MrRolltide91]

Don't care for neither fight

[Johnwoo8686]

Who said I'm justifying it? I'm just criticizing the *****s going bat**** crazy over this fight, yet defending the Berto fight or not criticizing it. Such a double standard, Floyd fans aka the demographics are seriously the most racist nuthugging fans out there. We all know if Pac and GGG were black they'd be their number 1 fans.

Sounds like you need to get out of your trailer park becuse you are out of the loop. No one wanted Berto but it was Floyd's last fight and he has since stuck to his word about retirement. Manny is fighting a guy no one wants to see him fight after he said he wold retire a few months ago. Manny is also a senator now so he should spend his full time focused on his role in government.