Why were Floyd fans fine with Berto, but upset over Vargas?

[Boxfan83]

You are 100% correct there my friend. And if you haven't noticed some are actually in here trying to 'act' classy, but we know better hehe

lol, you mean the ones that have 1 afro cuban in their favorite list to make it look like they are not pro black? haha

[Spoon23]

lol, you mean the ones that have 1 afro cuban in their favorite list to make it look like they are not pro black? haha

I rather not confirm or deny what you said.

[travestyny]

Floyd fought 20+ world champs doee but when Pac fights a world champion I'm gonna cry doe, Berto had a shoulder injury against Karass doe, but Manny was faking it(for the record I don't think Manny was injured), I pick and choose who to believe is injured when it fits my agenda doe.

You keep bringing up the fact that Berto lost to Soto Karass, even when you acknowledge that he tore up his shoulder in the fight. You say yourself that you didn't believe Pacquiao was injured. Well Berto was clearly injured, as you could tell from the fight, and he went through something like 7 hard months of rehabilitation as opposed to prayer and salt water.

I don't think anyone can say for sure if Jessie "Gift Decision" Vargas is even better than Berto.

And furthermore, by the number of times you mention black posters, it seems that you're driving some hidden agenda against black fans here. I don't know anyone who was excited about or praised the Mayweather/Berto fight, but it was understood to be his swan song after fighting the fight that people wanted to see. Pacquaio fought Bradley, a fight that 99.9% didn't want, if not 100%, retired, and then decides to come back for what we all know is a meaningless fight against an opponent who hasn't shown that he is any better than Berto considering his gift decisions.

Pacquaio is receiving criticism because he deserves it. If you want to criticize Mayweather for Berto, then do it. The hell are you complaining about?

[bluebeam]

Vargas is levels above Berto, but you see the same floyd fans that were defending this garbage fight get mad at Manny for fighting a world champion. Floyd fans have to be the biggest hypocrites ever. Would I rather see Crawford? DUH. But same could be said about Berto who is a worse opponent, and not even a world champion. This guy lost to Soto freaking Karass ffs. The *****s will start bringing up how Berto beat this guy and that guy YEARS ago before he was busted on PEDS, and wont bring up how he got destroyed by Guerrero, stopped by Karass, and has just looked awful.

More hypocrisy from Floyd fans are when they get upset over GGG bringing up Brook 2 weight classes, but then they always boast about how Floyd schooled Marquez after bringing him up 2 weight classes and cheating him on the scales.

I'm not a fanboy of either Pac or GGG, I just find Floyd fans to be the most nuthugging shameless fans in boxing.

what does mayweather vs berto have to do with pacquaio coming back and fighting his 2nd fight in a row that nobody wants too see?

nobody wanted to see Floyd vs berto either and everybody called it a bull**** fight. so now manny gets criticized and fanboys who pretend not to be fanboys make dumb threads.


this is a cherry pick, plain and simple. I just wish fanboys would have the guts to call it that instead of using Floyd vs berto as a reason to support this cherry pick.

the world wants pacquiao vs Crawford, not pacquiao vs vargas and you a sucker for not calling like it is.

pacquiao is not mayweather and mayweather is not pacquiao.

pacquiao doesn't get a cherry picking pass just because you felt like Floyd did.

be objective. be a fan of the sport and demand the best fight the best.

who cares about a retired fighters fight from 2015

[BrometheusBob.]

Difference:

Andre Berto - fresh off one of his best overall performances, KO'ing the guy that broke Ortiz's jaw.

Jessie Vargas - A guy with a roughly 30% KO record, fresh off of basically exposing a hyped Sadam Ali after getting literally embarrassed by Tim Bradley across 11.9 rounds and getting handed Tim's leftovers that he should never have had to surrender in the first place.

Now, if I calculate which of these two fighters is actually more dangerous, I'm leaning towards Berto.

That's why.

You seriously believe Berto was a bigger threat to Floyd than Vargas is to Manny? Comon now, I don't like this fight either but Vargas is definitely better than Berto. Vargas could reasonably be argued to be top ten right now, Berto was not even remotely in that conversation. Vargas' loss is to an established elite fighter, Berto got stopped by a journeyman. It's no contest.

[Combat Talk Radio]

You seriously believe Berto was a bigger threat to Floyd than Vargas is to Manny? Comon now, I don't like this fight either but Vargas is definitely better than Berto. Vargas could reasonably be argued to be top ten right now, Berto was not even remotely in that conversation. Vargas' loss is to an established elite fighter, Berto got stopped by a journeyman. It's no contest.

Read it again.

I'm not talking about threat to Fighter A or B. I'm talking about more dangerous in general.

Vargas is NOT a dangerous puncher. He's not. Look at his record, dude. He skates by doing the bare basics unless his opponent makes a mistake.

Berto isn't afraid to go to war even if he loses. The only fight he failed in that logic was Guerrero, and there he was just afraid to get tagged (and ended up getting tagged anyway).

Certain fighters are tailor made for Berto. I know of no fighter that cleanly and clearly gets beaten by Jessie Vargas except MAYBE Molina if he went up.

[Combat Talk Radio]

And he's still a world champ, he beat an Ali who was highly regarded. What did Berto do? He beat Josesito Lopez who was outboxing him LMFAO, and also lost to Soto Karass LOL.

Ali wasn't highly regarded. That's called overrated. That's not Berto's fault.

[BrometheusBob.]

Read it again.

I'm not talking about threat to Fighter A or B. I'm talking about more dangerous in general.

Vargas is NOT a dangerous puncher. He's not. Look at his record, dude. He skates by doing the bare basics unless his opponent makes a mistake.

Berto isn't afraid to go to war even if he loses. The only fight he failed in that logic was Guerrero, and there he was just afraid to get tagged (and ended up getting tagged anyway).

Certain fighters are tailor made for Berto. I know of no fighter that cleanly and clearly gets beaten by Jessie Vargas except MAYBE Molina if he went up.

Berto isn't really dangerous, at least not to the top fighters. He is a bigger puncher than Vargas, but not really a good enough boxer at this point for that to matter against top boxers.

[STREET CLEANER]

Crappy selection and a crappy fight. I saw no reason to pay to just see Floyd fight again. Meaningless fight

[Gary Coleman]

When in doubt, bash Mayweather.

I see nothing has changed.