Why were Floyd fans fine with Berto, but upset over Vargas?

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  • Eff Pandas
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    #21
    Originally posted by bojangles1987
    I think both fighters are past the point of me caring who they fight. I didn't like Berto. I don't like Vargas. Honestly, though, they can fight whoever they want. Nothing left for Mayweather or Pacquiao to prove.
    Yea solid point. Once you reach a certain level in boxing & your place in boxing history is more or less set you can do whatever. Fans can dog you about it & the haters have been dogging you well before that point anyway so they don't even register to guys iike Floyd or Manny I'd assume. But absolutely neither have anything to prove at this point.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
      Pacquiao has a large fan base, I'm not even sure where you are going with this. On top of that he is an established great, it's bad enough you put Golovkin in the same conversation. GGG has no standout win, people struggle to buy into the hype because lack of a standout win, it's nothing racial.

      Yes you are justifying it. Bradley, who Pacquiao just got done beating already handled Vargas with relative ease. It's a shit fight, Vargas doesn't have the offensive arsenal and more importantly, his stamina is absolute shit.
      So why do the demographics defend Wilder non-stop, and acting like what him and GGG are doing is remotely similar, when wilder has fought 1 top 10 heavy lmao. Nothing racial? Why do the demographics go crazy over Crawford beating Postol, who is really nothing special, and not better than any of GGG's wins. I can go on and on about this.

      How am I justifying it, I said that I'd rather see Crawford. Not saying it's a **** fight does nto mean I'm justifying it, Vargas is a world champion, and is a far better fight than Andre Berto.

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        #23
        Originally posted by bojangles1987
        I think both fighters are past the point of me caring who they fight. I didn't like Berto. I don't like Vargas. Honestly, though, they can fight whoever they want. Nothing left for Mayweather or Pacquiao to prove.
        I understand this feeling as well totally and I've expressed them on here but damn man, something better than Vargas. He beat Bradley, Bradley is a solid fighter, to go from Bradley to Vargas just doesn't make any sense to me.
        Last edited by Doctor_Tenma; 08-04-2016, 07:49 PM.

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          #24
          Originally posted by casualfan
          It's a fight against the only world champion in the TR stable.
          Thank you for agreeing with me. He is doing what he has always done.
          Crawford, Thurman and Vargas are available and Manny picked the fight
          that we the fans DID NOT ASK for... again.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
            I get understand this feeling as well totally and I've expressed them on here but damn man, something better than Vargas. He beat Bradley, Bradley is a solid fighter, to go from Bradley to Vargas just doesn't make any sense to me.
            But Canelo to Maidana did? Maidana ended up giving Floyd his toughest fight since Floyd lost to Castillo, I had Maidana/Floyd 1 a draw or a fight that could have gone either way, but at the time Maidana best wins were Karrass, Josesito, and a hypejob in Broner who jumped 2 weight classes and got a SD win over Paulie LOL

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              #26
              Originally posted by MASTERBX
              Thank you for agreeing with me. He is doing what he has always done.
              Crawford, Thurman and Vargas are available and Manny picked the fight
              that we the fans DID NOT ASK for... again.
              Thurman was available for Mayweather for years too, were you screaming for that fight? But Mayweather is retiring dooooe, he can fight Berto who lost to soto karass LMAO.

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                #27
                Originally posted by casualfan
                Nope, not new to boxing, been watching since the Tyson/Lewis fight, that was the first fight I watched live. If you think that the majority of Floyd fans in the online ytbc havent defended Floyd fighting Berto, or kept quiet about it then gone full ****** over Manny fighting Vargas you're simply blind.
                Well no **** & of course the fanboys defend their favorite affections. I wouldn't pay attention to the fanboys doe.

                Fanboys are the ******est, most biased boxing fans & aren't the guys you should be measuring the temperature of any situation based upon their opinions. Thats like garnering the overall opinion of Trump by asking his daughter.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                  Well no **** & of course the fanboys defend their favorite affections. I wouldn't pay attention to the fanboys doe.

                  Fanboys are the ******est, most biased boxing fans & aren't the guys you should be measuring the temperature of any situation based upon their opinions. Thats like garnering the overall opinion of Trump by asking his daughter.
                  Well most boxing fans are fanboys then, because this is ALL I see. The demographics defending every black fighter, but going in on every other race. These guys arent even fanboys of fighters, but fanboys of skin color.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by casualfan
                    So why do the demographics defend Wilder non-stop, and acting like what him and GGG are doing is remotely similar, when wilder has fought 1 top 10 heavy lmao. Nothing racial? Why do the demographics go crazy over Crawford beating Postol, who is really nothing special, and not better than any of GGG's wins. I can go on and on about this.

                    How am I justifying it, I said that I'd rather see Crawford. Not saying it's a **** fight does nto mean I'm justifying it, Vargas is a world champion, and is a far better fight than Andre Berto.
                    Vargas has gotten a lot of controversial wins, do follow his career because you may be unaware of that. He also performed horribly against Bradley and although he bounced back well against Ali, Ali is poor defensively with a shitty chin.

                    Postol is better than anyone Golovkin has faced, I know exactly what I'm looking at.

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                      #30
                      I'm a Floyd fan and I don't have a problem with the Vargas fight. In fact I like it. And who's complaining about Vargas? I haven't seen many threads about it.

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