Comments Thread For: Canelo Smiles: I Ran From Golovkin? He's Fought NOBODY!

[JUNIABOY]

Speaking the truth. Canelo has earned his spot in the game. Fighting Trout was a real risk. He loses that fight and the Floyd fight goes away. His promoter didn't want him to take the fight. Lara was a high risk low reward fight. He took it to shut his big mouth.
With GGG, he understands that the fight only happens on his terms. GGG got his belt and what did it do for him? He is the B side having to go across the pond to fight a welterweight with one decent win on his resume.
The fight will happen when GGG and his team realize they won't dictate anything. Weight, split, venue, nada. I understand the hate he got for dropping the WBC strap but as someone who negotiates contracts for a living (albeit on a much smaller scale) I get where Canelo is coming from. GGG is a damn good fighter, but he is not a star and his PPV numbers and him having to travel show it.

Now you're making excuses for an excuse-maker. Canelo is in no position to dictate 155, as his fans have turned against him. It would have been fine if he had vacated but still made the fight with GGG. But he vacated, went to court for a month, then chose the 6th best option at 154. Canelo basically did all the worst maneuvers for a duck without blatantly telling the public that he's going to duck. The only thing GGG's team wasn't going to negotiate was fighting at 155. You can't tell me canelo couldn't negotiate that CW to 157-158. Canelo wanted everything in his advantage...he wanted everything! That's why he's a duck.

[JUNIABOY]

Just like I have been saying..... that fight was always there, IF Golovkin really wanted it..... and it likely still is.

now he will have to wait until Canelo moves up to 160

So much for all that "anyone from 154-168" crap..... and so much for promising to give Canelo a catchweight back when Canelo was a 22yo who you thought you could beat LMAO

Hype man, the fight was always there for Canelo, but he ducked it. He had the fight staring him in the face, & walked away. You keep using that 154-168 argument when it's been proven time & time again that no viable option wants to step up from those weights. Go back to work, hype man.

[Metho_4u]

And what good is Canelos superior resume if he gives him no confidence to step in with the bum beater? Hed rather be boxings #1 joke. And you're wrong on moving up, as usual. He'd signed to fight Chavez Jr, offered Froch 168 in the UK and agreed to fight Ward back when Hbo approached them.

Chavez is a bum, and Froch is old and said he could not make 168. Where did he agree to fight Ward? Because he said that? Loeffler is quoted as saying he turned down an offer from Roc nation and they might be interested in 2017 if Andre was still at 168. That's the same thing as saying "no thanks".

I never said Canelo wasn't avoiding the fight, but GayLoveKin should've just accepted he's the B side and done a catchweight. Canelo isn't going to accept demands anymore after he had to do it with Floyd and Cotto.

[ИATAS]

You have link??? I TRULY believe the right fighters could make open scoring AWESOME! I mean who wouldn't WANT to know where your at in a fight? Sure one guy might coast but then CUT the damn ring off!!! GO ALL-IN! Or go HOME like Trout "No Heart" did. He knew he needed a hail mary but kept running it on 1st and long...From his own 2 yard line.

Trust me man, it kills the fight, it kills the suspense. If a war is going on in the ring, it's nearly impossible for either fighter to know who's winning, so if they announce the scores and one guy is up, that guy is no longer going to go balls to the wall, he's going to play it safe.

Open scoring sounds good in theory but in reality it's bad. I guarantee if you watch O'Neil Bell vs Jean Marc Mormeck I, then watch Bell vs Jean Marc Mormeck II, you'll never want to even hear about open scoring again. There are other examples as well. Hell, even Canelo vs Trout is a good example - if Canelo didn't know for a fact he was up big, perhaps he's more aggressive, perhaps it turns into a ****er. But since he knew the scores, he knew he didn't have to.

Here is an article from boxingscene followed by the Chavez vs Rubio fight, which was another very whacky and literally a surprise open scoring fight:

It is not uncommon for the WBC – whose belt was at stake in the HBO-televised main event – to utilize the practice in its title fights. However, most American fans aren’t privy to it, since it is disallowed in any fight that takes place in the United States, in accordance with the rules provided by the Association of Boxing Commissions (ABC).

Therefore, it came with great surprise to the fans watching at home as well as the HBO crew that scores were being revealed to the fighters’ corners following the 4th and 8th rounds. This is a slight yet distinct variation from the normal procedure that comes with WBC title fights beyond American borders, in which the scores are announced after those very rounds on the venue’s P.A. system. -

The HBO cameras showed a representative from the WBC going to Chavez Jr’s corner, with head trainer Freddie Roach being asked to review and sign off on the card that was presented to him.

The same was done in Rubio’s corner, though mostly to their surprise in a weekend full of strange events not quite matching up to the itinerary offered.

“We were surprised,” admits Oswaldo Kuchle, Rubio’s promoter. “We didn’t know it was going to happen. I know that the ABC didn’t approve open scoring in the U.S.”

Members at HBO questioned in the aftermath why the practice was even allowed, and also why such scores weren’t made available to the network’s staff on hand. Such questions led to in-house speculation that the decision was made on a whim by WBC President Jose Sulaiman.

Not so, says the WBC.

“The Texas Commission approved the WBC’s request to use open scoring on a limited basis only for the benefit of the corners,” informed WBC Supervisor Alberto Leon. “In fact, the (local) commission itself conducted the procedure that was used.”

Many in the industry have frowned upon the practice of open scoring. Some disprove of the practice due to the fact that a fighter with a large enough lead after eight rounds suddenly eases off the gas and coasts down the stretch. Conversely, the fighter on the losing end of that equation suddenly changes up and no longer fights his fight but instead reacts to the scoreboard.

[JUNIABOY]

GGG will NEVER fight anyone with a pulse! Never challenge himself! And never make it to the Boxing Hall of Fame without buying a ticket! His FANS don't even give a SHT! I asked why GGG doesn't call out some of these guys bluffs and pay the sht talking clown and this is the response I got back...


One Punch (GGGoon) - Fine. Then get out your checkbook and pony up the difference........

Oh, wait.......

GGG doesn't call out anybody...he lets his team do their work & negotiate fights for him. The only time he ever mentions any boxer's name is in interviews...& even then he doesn't reveal anything except willingness to prove his boxing. He mentioned Ward one time on camera to tell him "as a man you're dead to me," & that was it. GGG is not a smack talker outside of the ring. He will never be that kind of talker. That's cool because boxing fans should prefer to watch him fight instead.

[Jubei]

Is this sarcasm? Drops the belt out of fear, leaves the division to duck GGG and says he fought nobody. Canelo is even ducking the guys GGG already beat up, namely Lemieux and Stevens. WoW. Yeah he would have fought you and many others, how the fu. can that coward bitch even open his mouth. Fucking disgrace.

[Metho_4u]

GGG doesn't know how to fight anyone with a pulse...he lets his team do their work & negotiate fights for him and then let Loeffler lie for him. The only time he ever mentions any boxer's name is in interviews because he will never actually get in the ring with them...& even then he doesn't reveal anything except willingness to prove his boxing, as long as it's with a C level fighter. He mentioned Ward one time on camera to tell him "as a man you're dead to me," & that was it, but Loeffler still refused the offer because he wants to milk the hype as long as possible. GGG is not a smack talker outside of the ring, because he's secretly gay. He will never be that kind of talker. That's cool because boxing fans should prefer to watch him fight instead since his fights are free and he won't be on ppv anytime soon again after his one and only ppv flop

All fixed

[JUNIABOY]

All fixed

It was fine the way it was.

GGG doesn't call out anybody...he lets his team do their work & negotiate fights for him. The only time he ever mentions any boxer's name is in interviews...& even then he doesn't reveal anything except willingness to prove his boxing. He mentioned Ward one time on camera to tell him "as a man you're dead to me," & that was it. GGG is not a smack talker outside of the ring. He will never be that kind of talker. That's cool because boxing fans should prefer to watch him fight instead.

[JUNIABOY]

GGG fans will tell EVERY other fan to boycot their fighters when they REFUSE to fight "REAL" fighters. But YET POS HYPOCRITES won't do the same when he fights POS Tomato CANS!!!! And when you ask for him to just pay a lil $$$$??? They say FK NO! Like it's their $$$$$

GGG = FRAUD

No way you can call a world titlist a tomato can. That's just denigrating the sport.

[JUNIABOY]

Ward??? He probably needed a year to make 164...Saunders was a BS PR stunt by team GGG. Loeffler in an INTERVIEW asked point bloank if he offered saunders $4-6 million and said "I won't get into exact details but it was life changing money" WHILE HE WAS SHAKING HIS HEAD UP AND DOWN!!!! He never came up from $1.5... So it's NOT about the BELTS and DREAMS for GGG it's about the $$$$$. ALWAYS has been ALWAYS will. YOU POS Fans are just too ****** to remove your mouths from his C@CK!!!

You can't have fighters fight for free. Nor can you have the most popular boxer in the world take a pay cut just to satisfy his critics. You might say that GGG is not the most popular boxer in the world. To which I would reply that since Pac & May both retired, GGG has become the most recognizable & talked-about boxer in the world. I don't think it's even close as far as popularity. Love him or hate, you talk about him. Even now you talk about him. The most popular boxer in the world isn't going to start taking pay cuts just so the critics can feel good about themselves.

And don't get the facts mixed up. Ward's team wanted 3 tune-ups before the GGG fight...& this is at the negotiating table they brought this up. And members of his own team confirmed that demand. Of course, it feels idiotic for any boxer to sign a fight 3 fights away. Isn't that what the networks are for?