Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Coach: We Wanted Ward, It Will Eventually Happen!

[JUNIABOY]

I also see no result for the fight preview you are speaking of, searched it just as you typed it in

It's on you_tube. GGG vs Rosado fight preview. It was the one where GGG was sick going into that fight. You'll find it.

[Metho_4u]

It's a mismatch that I'll watch. And I think people will be pleasantly surprised on how competitive it is, until GGG gets the KO. But it's not unheard of that a MW would fight a WW. And some WW's have won those bouts. Let's keep it in perspective here. It's world-level boxing vs world-level boxing. That should be enough to get a boxing fan excited. And there is that possibility that Brook acclimates to the weight smoothly.

Why would Ward have a contract to fight Kovalev if he was afraid of Golovkin? Because styles make fights. Kovalev's style is inherently different from GGg's...& Ward's. That's why boxing fans desire it. GGG's style might be that much more dangerous than Kovalev's style just because of his aggression matched with power. I disagree that GGG didn't want to fight Ward. Again, look at the GGG/Rosado fight preview video. And I think that the GGG/Ward fight wasn't made partially because of RocNation's inexperience in negotiations. They're a brand new outfit. And the evidence of their inexperience is not even knowing that GGG already had Lemieux lined up when they sent a counter-offer. Or maybe RocNation knew & sent the offer anyway just to save face in front of Ward's fans. See, the only thing that can vindicate everything Ward & his team has said is the presentation of that email Ward talked about. If you can find & present that email, so many Ward fans (or GGG critics) would get justification. But we have yet to see it...& we might never see it. And that whole thing about FMJ saying GGG needs to fight Ward before he can get him was such a BS proposition that I doubt many boxing fans took it seriously. I mean, come on...he wanted GGG to fight Ward at 168 (or higher), then come back down to 154 to fight FMJ?...to me, it sounds more like FMJ was just putting up roadblocks. It's been said before: if both fighters truly want the fight, then a contract can be drawn up quickly. GGG can't fight boxers who aren't willing.

I believe otherwise, I believe that first off, golovkin shouldn't have said the famous 154-168 thing. I believe Loeffler has been caught in so many lies and half truths that not many will believe him anymore. He's like koncz is the pacquiao... a liar. I don't believe Ward has any fear of golovkin at all. I've also heard Ward doing commentary and was asked about fighting golovkin in which he stated that he had no problem with it. Now, I cannot tell you when because it been a while ago, but I know he said it.

Also, whatever golovkin said about Ward is meaningless unless he took any steps to get into the ring with him....he didn't, and talk is cheap.

[JUNIABOY]

Lol, you're seriously comparing Hopkins and a prime RJJ to golovkin?? Fu***** amazing! Lol

Why can't I? RJJ was a MW champion. Hopkins was a MW champion. So why can't I compare past MW champions to present ones again? If you're going to say resume, I'm going to respond GGG's career isn't over yet. It's an apt route to draw comparisons to past MW greats.

[DinoCop]

And this is wednesday's ****** exclamation by sanchez. Every single day im posting this.

[Metho_4u]

Why can't I? RJJ was a MW champion. Hopkins was a MW champion. So why can't I compare past MW champions to present ones again? If you're going to say resume, I'm going to respond GGG's career isn't over yet. It's an apt route to draw comparisons to past MW greats.

He's not even close to being a MW great. I also cannot find the video, I've watched 2 and not wasting as nymore time. I saw him being sick and all that.

Bottom line is still what I posted, you keep making excuses to what Loeffler has admitted. This is what he was quoted as saying. They had no desire to fight Ward until 2017 as long as he remained at 168. Knowing that Ward was likely going to move up. They said 164. They did not want the fight....the end.

[JUNIABOY]

He's not even close to being a MW great. I also cannot find the video, I've watched 2 and not wasting as nymore time. I saw him being sick and all that.

Bottom line is still what I posted, you keep making excuses to what Loeffler has admitted. This is what he was quoted as saying. They had no desire to fight Ward until 2017 as long as he remained at 168. Knowing that Ward was likely going to move up. They said 164. They did not want the fight....the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6K0_Xt7Qp0

Apologies for the inconvenience to find this video. At 2:58 the question comes up.

I'm not saying that GGG is among the ATG MW's. But the potential is there. And if we're measuring a current boxer to meet up to those historical standards, then yes we would need to compare a little between the great MW's of the past. It's why we instinctively start to think of potential matchups for a great boxer: to see if they can be an ATG. Isn't that true for all weight divisions?

In my opinion, GGG's team ended up playing hardball on the catchweight because Ward's team was playing hardball on the 50/50 purse. That's what I think was the issue. So to say that GGG's team didn't want to fight is stretching the truth a little. In a sense, Ward's team did not want the fight if they did not want to negotiate those 2 sticking points...same for GGG's team. So maybe the answer is somewhere in-between. But from my point-of-view, if an A-side negotiator is offering a contract, it would be a duck for the B-side to not negotiate it better to their liking or worse, walk away from it.

[kafkod]

Hey, smart guy...Internet postings are all kept record of, if you're going to make threats keep that in mind. No need to get butt hurt because your favorite fighter has been found out....idiot.

Lol. That moron sent me insulting PMs and he also sent me his address and invited me round for a scrap. You are as ****** as he is.

[kafkod]

And yet, so the story goes, Ward was ready to fight GGG right then, without any more tune-ups. He only included the interim fights in his offer so that Golovkin would be able to fight Lemieux first.

And that was before he even knew that Golovkin had signed to fight Lemieux!

Loeffler admits to the whole thing, what's so difficult to understand here? Your ignorance is beyond laughable

Ok. So Ward included interim fights in his offer so that Golovkin could fight Lemieux before him. But he sent the offer before he even knew about GGG/Lemieux?

Ward is a canny guy. He knows that 99% of his fans are as thick as 2 short planks and will accept any irrational bull**** he comes out with. That's a great example of how ****** you sheep are.

[kafkod]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6K0_Xt7Qp0

Apologies for the inconvenience to find this video. At 2:58 the question comes up.

I'm not saying that GGG is among the ATG MW's. But the potential is there. And if we're measuring a current boxer to meet up to those historical standards, then yes we would need to compare a little between the great MW's of the past. It's why we instinctively start to think of potential matchups for a great boxer: to see if they can be an ATG. Isn't that true for all weight divisions?

In my opinion, GGG's team ended up playing hardball on the catchweight because Ward's team was playing hardball on the 50/50 purse. That's what I think was the issue. So to say that GGG's team didn't want to fight is stretching the truth a little. In a sense, Ward's team did not want the fight if they did not want to negotiate those 2 sticking points...same for GGG's team. So maybe the answer is somewhere in-between. But from my point-of-view, if an A-side negotiator is offering a contract, it would be a duck for the B-side to not negotiate it better to their liking or worse, walk away from it.

There was never an offer to fight at 164 from GGG's team, because there have never been any negotiations with Ward. "50/50 money and weight" was something said in response to a hypothetical question during an interview on a TV show.

When Loeffler got the offer from Ward he rejected it immediately and told Ward if he wanted to fight GGG at 168 he should send them an offer in 2017, because GGG would be focused on 160 till then.

[just the facts]

There was never an offer to fight at 164 from GGG's team, because there have never been any negotiations with Ward. "50/50 money and weight" was something said in response to a hypothetical question during an interview on a TV show.

When Loeffler got the offer from Ward he rejected it immediately and told Ward if he wanted to fight GGG at 168 he should send them an offer in 2017, because GGG would be focused on 160 till then.

Hats off to ya brother, defending g string and his pathetic resume is a full time job and you're up to the task!