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  • Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
    4. yeah, oscar needed iv, the same thing floyd needed, oscar was a dead man walking as you put it, but how come floyd wasnt a dead man walking? they both needed iv because of dehydration right?

    Originally posted by travestyny View Post
    LMAO. Do you know anything about the De La Hoya/Pac fight? You aren't a boxing fan, are you? I'm going to let you go find another boxer or MMA fighter that had an IV. You tell me if they always are like De la Hoya.
    Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
    4. so now different fighters will respond differently to getting an iv treatment? but on the pac shoulder injury, you claim it was fake because manny didnt go thru the same step as other athletes that had the same injury! hahahahahahah
    L

    Originally posted by travestyny View Post
    So are you saying that Kobe is unable to shoot with his left arm? Do you think he wouldn't have been on the court shooting and dribbling with his left. This is KOBE BRYANT who is a fierce competitor. So he holds back, and Manny goes balls to the wall. Nah, I doubt that. It's disrespectful to the black mamba.

    Kobe had full thickness rotator cuff surgery -- First shoots 7 months after surgery.

    [IMG]http://i62.***********.com/albums/h95/travestyny/Screen%20Shot%202016-04-18%20at%209.09.20%20PM.png[/IMG]
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...oulder-surgery

    Pacquiao has "full thickness rotator cuff surgery -- Playing basketball at 3 months


    Dr. Neal ElAttrache (yes, the surgeon who perforemd the surgery on Pac) talks about how bad contact basketball is for your rotator cuff.
    Swimming and playing basketball can damage the rotator cuff.
    @:45



    Guess who returned to full contact basketball in under 6 months. LMAO


    Kobe first shoots in 7 months. Pacquaio back playing contact basketball in under 6 months!
    lololololol

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    • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
      I don't know what he did. I never claimed that. All I asked was for people to look at the evidence I posted and draw a conclusion. That's all. From all of the evidence, doesn't this seem odd to you? How can he claim that swimming was his primary rehabilitation method in the early stages of rehab when every single rehabilitation guideline prohibits swimming? How is he playing basketball at 3 months when Kobe first took a shot at 7 months after having the same surgery? It doesn't add up. Something is off here, and that's all I'm saying. It doesn't appear to have been a full thickness tear.
      more comparison but when i asked why wasnt floyd a dead man walking like oscar, you reply by saying not all fighters will respond the same LOL.

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      • Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
        more comparison but when i asked why wasnt floyd a dead man walking like oscar, you reply by saying not all fighters will respond the same LOL.
        What are you even trying to argue? That anyone who takes an IV should be like Oscar De La Hoya? What was his medical diagnosis?

        We know what Pacquaio claimed to have. Tell me now, what did Oscar claim to have?


        I'll wait.

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        • Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
          more comparison but when i asked why wasnt floyd a dead man walking like oscar, you reply by saying not all fighters will respond the same LOL.
          LMAO. SO THE STANDARD FOR BEING ALLOWED TO TAKE AN IV IS IF THE BOXER RESEMBLES OSCAR DE LA HOYA AT HIS WEIGH IN!!!


          LMAOOOOOO.


          OK, I'LL PASS THAT INFO TO USADA AND WADA. THANKS, BRO.

          Seriously. You are embarrassing yourself hard. You have the intelligence of a bag of dust, and you're trying too hard. You're gonna hurt yourself!

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          • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
            What are you even trying to argue? That anyone who takes an IV should be like Oscar De La Hoya? What was his medical diagnosis?

            We know what Pacquaio claimed to have. Tell me now, what did Oscar claim to have?


            I'll wait.
            Originally posted by travestyny View Post
            Let me address this because I believe I addressed all of your other points in this post. I never, ever said that Kobe couldn't play with the injury. I do not know at what point his injury became a full-thickness injury, and I never speculated about it. Don't know why you are trying to put words into my mouth. What I did say, and still stand by, is that he could not play for months after the surgery. That is clear.

            [B]Kobe first took a shot at 7 months!!![/B]

            Manny was all out playing in 3 months!
            lololololololol

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            • Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
              lololololololol
              ????


              What is your point? You are going full ******. I think I finally cracked you...because you are downright obsessed and nutty right now.

              You appear to be having a full mental meltdown. Are you ok?

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              • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                LMAO. SO THE STANDARD FOR BEING ALLOWED TO TAKE AN IV IS IF THE BOXER RESEMBLES OSCAR DE LA HOYA AT HIS WEIGH IN!!!


                LMAOOOOOO.


                OK, I'LL PASS THAT INFO TO USADA AND WADA. THANKS, BRO.

                Seriously. You are embarrassing yourself hard. You have the intelligence of a bag of dust, and you're trying too hard. You're gonna hurt yourself!
                once again making stuff up... i never said the standard to use iv you have to resemble oscar.

                im asking you why floyd didnt look like oscar when they both got treated with IV. kinda like what you said here regarding kobe being out and manny being out.

                Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                [B]Kobe first took a shot at 7 months!!![/B]

                Manny was all out playing in 3 months!
                lololololololol

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                • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                  ????


                  What is your point? You are going full ******. I think I finally cracked you...because you are downright obsessed and nutty right now.

                  You appear to be having a full mental meltdown. Are you ok?
                  Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
                  4. yeah, oscar needed iv, the same thing floyd needed, oscar was a dead man walking as you put it, but how come floyd wasnt a dead man walking? they both needed iv because of dehydration right?
                  Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                  LMAO. Do you know anything about the De La Hoya/Pac fight? You aren't a boxing fan, are you? I'm going to let you go find another boxer or MMA fighter that had an IV. You tell me if they always are like De la Hoya.
                  "go find another boxer or mma fighter that had iv and tell me if they always are like de la hoya"

                  then goes and make a post like this ---

                  "Kobe first took a shot at 7 months!!! Manny was all out playing in 3 months!"

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                  • Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
                    once again making stuff up... i never said the standard to use iv you have to resemble oscar.

                    im asking you why floyd didnt look like oscar when they both got treated with IV. kinda like what you said here regarding kobe being out and manny being out.

                    lololololololol
                    Let me make this crystal clear before you hurt yourself anymore.

                    1. The reason that Mayweather did not have to look like Oscar De La Hoya to receive the IV is because OSCAR DE LA HOYA'S CONDITION IS IN NO WAY A STANDARD FOR RECEIVING AN IV, IDIOT. In fact, USADA had nothing to do with De La Hoya. Why would Mayweather have been required to look like De La Hoya?

                    2. The reason that other athletes were brought up in relation to Pacquaio is because those other athletes recoveries ARE GUIDED BY MEDICAL RESEARCH AND THE SURGEONS THAT PERFORMED THE SURGERY AND GUIDE THE REHABILITATION.

                    So let's see:

                    Oscar De La Hoya.....nope, nothing to do with USADA, WADA, or Floyd.

                    Kobe Bryant and Andre Berto -- Who performed surgery on their full-thickness rotator cuff surgeries and guided their rehabilitation????? Dr. Neil ElAttrache.

                    How does this relate to Pacquaio? Who performed his surgery (but was not allowed to guide his rehabilitation) Dr. Neil ElAttrache.

                    Kobe and Berto rehabbed the right way. Pacquaio skipped rehab and went swimming when it is prohibited according to 11 medical research papers I've found on swimming after this specific surgery, and also SWIMMING AND BASKETBALL are warned against in a video by Dr. ElAttrache himself!!!!




                    Feel ****** now? You should, but you're too ****** to feel ******. It's not even funny to me at this point. I pity you.
                    Last edited by travestyny; 07-28-2016, 05:08 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by westernchamp View Post
                      "go find another boxer or mma fighter that had iv and tell me if they always are like de la hoya"

                      then goes and make a post like this ---

                      "kobe first took a shot at 7 months!!! Manny was all out playing in 3 months!"
                      hahahahahaha. I just took a huge dump on you. Tell me how that **** feels.



                      Now take that L bi*tch, and don't return. You're done.

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