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  • Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
    first evidence right here. there's more but i cant seem to find that thread but just wait.
    Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
    Originally posted by travestyny View Post
    3. Who came back early? Kevin Love? They said he was going to miss 4 months...so how is that coming back early? The rehabilitation time was likely around 3 months. This was not a full thickness rotator cuff tear, buddy. Sorry that you are confused.
    Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
    more comparison
    Originally posted by travestyny View Post
    Wrong. I listed his plethora of lies, parallel circumstances, eye witness testimony, video evidence, photographic evidence, and a plethora of medical documents like:
    LMAOOOOO. LIKE I SAID, I KNEW WHERE THIS WAS GOING, AND YOU WOULD PROVE YOURSELF TO HAVE COMPREHENSION ISSUES. Damn, dude. Seriously. I feel bad for wasting my time talking to you.

    You said I tried to prove Manny was full of **** based on the injuries of other athletes. I responded, WRONG, I proved it based on a number of things including...blah blah blah. You see it all above, right? Go to that post. It's unedited.

    Now what did I highlight there? Do you know what parallel circumstances mean. The point is I didn't try to prove it with only that. I proved it with a number of different forms of information.

    Your ******ity is becoming predictable, bro. Seriously. It's time for you to walk away.

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    • Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
      not his stats on wwe LOL!!! you know you can find info about him besides wwe right? LOL
      Where else do you think they are taking his weight from. Why would anyone else ever weigh him?


      What is his height listed as, because in the WWE he was listed as 7'2", then 7'1", and finally 7'0. He doesn't appear to be any of those. Close, but you can tell he's not 7'0 when next to Shaq, who is 7'1.

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      • LOL whats the point of bring up Manny getting KTFO during that segment? too much praise for manny and stephen had to knock him down? max brings up fighters like manny taking risk and stephen counters with "yeah but he got put to sleep" okay? thats boxing, thats what we want to see.

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        • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
          Wrong. I listed his plethora of lies, parallel circumstances, eye witness testimony, video evidence, photographic evidence, and a plethora of medical documents like:

          Testimony From Medical Sources:
          "Swimming plays no role in the rehabilitation program for people with rotator cuff injuries and, second, swimmers are at risk of getting rotator cuff injuries because the shoulders play such an important role in swimming strokes."

          "Rehabilitation guidelines for repairing the rotator cuff, clearly rule out swimming, even at 14 weeks after surgery."

          http://www.livestrong.com/article/39...-rotator-cuff/

          "According to the website for Premiere Orthopaedic & Sports Medicine, patients, at the three to six month mark post-surgery, are barely starting to re-strengthen the muscles in the affected area after the mandatory period of rest and inactivity. Dr. Surena Namdari of the Rothman Institute told Sports Illustrated that it would likely be six months before Manny could even begin the physical rehabilitation process."

          "If the tear is large, patient is unable to lift the injured arm due to loss of muscle power and pain."
          http://www.tandurust.com/bone-joint-...s-healing.html

          "They simply can’t lift the arm up or if they do, they can’t lift it far."
          http://www.howardluksmd.com/shoulder...cuff-injuries/

          "In other cases, the rotator cuff tendons completely rupture. A complete tear makes it impossible to move the arm in a normal range of motion. It is usually impossible to raise the arm away from your side by yourself."
          http://www.houstonmethodist.org/orth...or-cuff-tears/

          With the consent of their surgeon, a patient may return to activities such as swimming between 4 and 6 months following the procedure.
          http://www.orthop.washington.edu/?q=...tor-cuff-tears

          Type 1 Rotator Cuff Repair:
          No Swimming for up to 15 weeks after surgery.

          Type 2 Rotator Cuff Repair:
          No swimming up to 20 weeks after surgery.

          http://www.uwhealth.org/files/uwheal...RTC_Repair.pdf

          Return to swimming 6-8 months after surgery.
          http://www.massgeneral.org/ortho-spo...20protocol.pdf

          No swimming up to 25 weeks after surgery
          http://uhealthsportsmedicine.com/doc..._Tenodesis.pdf

          No swimming up to 19 weeks after surgery
          http://www.taosortho.com/patientinfo...20protocol.pdf

          Patients can return to swimming with a graduated program from 3-6 months post surgery
          http://www.shouldersurgery.com.au/ro...ff-repair.html

          No swimming for the first 4 months
          http://www.uptodate.com/contents/rot...ond-the-basics

          No swimming for until months 4 - 6
          http://www.orthonc.com/sites/default...uff_Repair.pdf

          Can resume swimming at 3 months
          http://www.sosmed.org/specialties/sh...tor-cuff-tear/

          Any questions? How about trying to answer mine now!
          yes, how come you didnt post the whole thing??? LMAO!!!!!!! this is what you didnt post up ---

          Evidence from parallel circumstances:
          Kobe Bryant:
          Has surgery for a full thickness rotator cuff tear on January 28th.

          Surgery performed by Dr. Neal ElAttrache.

          Full recovery stated to be 9-12 months.

          "On August 22nd, Bryant posted a photo to his Instagram account with the caption, 'First day back on the court shooting!'"


          L

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          • Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
            yes, how come you didnt post the whole thing??? LMAO!!!!!!! this is what you didnt post up ---

            Evidence from parallel circumstances:
            Kobe Bryant:
            Has surgery for a full thickness rotator cuff tear on January 28th.

            Surgery performed by Dr. Neal ElAttrache.

            Full recovery stated to be 9-12 months.

            "On August 22nd, Bryant posted a photo to his Instagram account with the caption, 'First day back on the court shooting!'"


            L
            Ok that's it. You are the absolute biggest moron...

            yo seriously, you're maybe a bigger moron than Rath.

            DID YOU SEE WHERE I TYPED PARALLEL CIRCUMSTANCES!!!!

            I told you that I said I didn't only use parallel circumstances. Why would I post the parallel circumstances, which I acknowledged, if I wanted to prove that's not all I used??????


            I JUST POINTED THAT OUT TO YOU. THIS IS A SERIOUS QUESTION.

            HOW. CAN. YOU. BE. THIS. ******!!!!

            Damn. I hope you're trolling. You're about to make it on the ignore list, of which I only have one other person, and that's Rath, simply because of sheer ******ity. I haven't even put Spoon on ignore.

            But you....you are proving to be dumb as a ****ing brick!!!!
            Last edited by travestyny; 07-28-2016, 11:45 AM.

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            • Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
              1. i already answer your question. nowhere did he said floyd was 160. thats "you" assuming thats what he is saying.

              2. if the video is fake, then why would wwe make floyd appear bigger than what he really is? the whole point of floyd fighting the big show is suppoose to be a freak show type match up where a small guy is fighting a way bigger guy, so why would they make floyd seem bigger for then? LOL!

              3. oscar was a dead man walking in your own words. was floyd a dead man walking too? they both had to use iv right?

              4. so now different fighters will respond differently to getting an iv treatment? but on the pac shoulder injury, you claim it was fake because manny didnt go thru the same step as other athletes that had the same injury! hahahahahahah
              L
              Originally posted by travestyny View Post
              Wrong. I listed his plethora of lies, parallel circumstances, eye witness testimony, video evidence, photographic evidence, and a plethora of medical documents like:

              Testimony From Medical Sources:
              "Swimming plays no role in the rehabilitation program for people with rotator cuff injuries and, second, swimmers are at risk of getting rotator cuff injuries because the shoulders play such an important role in swimming strokes."

              "Rehabilitation guidelines for repairing the rotator cuff, clearly rule out swimming, even at 14 weeks after surgery."

              http://www.livestrong.com/article/39...-rotator-cuff/

              "According to the website for Premiere Orthopaedic & Sports Medicine, patients, at the three to six month mark post-surgery, are barely starting to re-strengthen the muscles in the affected area after the mandatory period of rest and inactivity. Dr. Surena Namdari of the Rothman Institute told Sports Illustrated that it would likely be six months before Manny could even begin the physical rehabilitation process."

              "If the tear is large, patient is unable to lift the injured arm due to loss of muscle power and pain."
              http://www.tandurust.com/bone-joint-...s-healing.html

              "They simply can’t lift the arm up or if they do, they can’t lift it far."
              http://www.howardluksmd.com/shoulder...cuff-injuries/

              "In other cases, the rotator cuff tendons completely rupture. A complete tear makes it impossible to move the arm in a normal range of motion. It is usually impossible to raise the arm away from your side by yourself."
              http://www.houstonmethodist.org/orth...or-cuff-tears/

              With the consent of their surgeon, a patient may return to activities such as swimming between 4 and 6 months following the procedure.
              http://www.orthop.washington.edu/?q=...tor-cuff-tears

              Type 1 Rotator Cuff Repair:
              No Swimming for up to 15 weeks after surgery.

              Type 2 Rotator Cuff Repair:
              No swimming up to 20 weeks after surgery.

              http://www.uwhealth.org/files/uwheal...RTC_Repair.pdf

              Return to swimming 6-8 months after surgery.
              http://www.massgeneral.org/ortho-spo...20protocol.pdf

              No swimming up to 25 weeks after surgery
              http://uhealthsportsmedicine.com/doc..._Tenodesis.pdf

              No swimming up to 19 weeks after surgery
              http://www.taosortho.com/patientinfo...20protocol.pdf

              Patients can return to swimming with a graduated program from 3-6 months post surgery
              http://www.shouldersurgery.com.au/ro...ff-repair.html

              No swimming for the first 4 months
              http://www.uptodate.com/contents/rot...ond-the-basics

              No swimming for until months 4 - 6
              http://www.orthonc.com/sites/default...uff_Repair.pdf

              Can resume swimming at 3 months
              http://www.sosmed.org/specialties/sh...tor-cuff-tear/

              Any questions? How about trying to answer mine now!
              Originally posted by travestyny View Post
              Full recovery stated to be 9-12 months.

              "On August 22nd, Bryant posted a photo to his Instagram account with the caption, 'First day back on the court shooting!'"

              [IMG]http://i62.***********.com/albums/h95/travestyny/Screen%20Shot%202016-04-18%20at%209.09.20%20PM.png[/IMG]
              http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...oulder-surgery

              First day back on the court shooting for Kobe?: about 7 months

              Pacquiao on the court shooting: 3 months

              Andre Berto:
              "Andre Berto, for example, went through seven months of tough rehab before being cleared to engage in light sparring after suffering an injury similar to Pacquiao’s in August of 2013. Berto, by the way, was treated by the same doctor who had attended to Pacquiao’s injury, Dr. Neal ElAttrache."
              http://boxingbuzz.sportsblog.com/pos...-recovery.html

              Berto Rehabilitation time: 7 months

              Pacquaio rehabilitation time: ??? (self-rehab...3 months the most)
              i swear i cant even make this up.

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              • Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
                yes, how come you didnt post the whole thing??? LMAO!!!!!!! this is what you didnt post up ---

                Evidence from parallel circumstances:
                Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                Wrong. I listed his plethora of lies, parallel circumstances, eye witness testimony, video evidence, photographic evidence, and a plethora of medical documents like:

                lol. Ahem. So who takes this L???? You can't even read!!! I'm seriously disgusted that you have the intelligence of a peanut.

                Damn. Go away, kid. You were dismissed long ago.

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                • Yeah floyd was good but never proved he was great vs prime top fighters . He is overated for the simple fact he picked and choosed (calculated matchmaking ) the lowest possible risk with the highest reward. He used latino fighters on latino holidays for the most part.

                  There is about 10 fights he missed by CHOICE.
                  He contradicted himself more times than I can count over the years.

                  Examples.

                  He said he was the reason why ppvs sold so much, yet he would say he doesnt have a fan base

                  He said he never heard of said opponent , yet the fans have heard of him.

                  He said he was retiring , yet he didnt twice .

                  He said take the test, yet he got caught taking an illegal iv vs the very man he said take tobtesr to

                  He said this man is a cheater , yet he paid that same man in court for slandering along being able to keep his own medical records sealed

                  He ran a poll and fought the loser of the poll.

                  There plenty more examples.

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                  • Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
                    4. yeah, oscar needed iv, the same thing floyd needed, oscar was a dead man walking as you put it, but how come floyd wasnt a dead man walking? they both needed iv because of dehydration right?

                    Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                    LMAO. Do you know anything about the De La Hoya/Pac fight? You aren't a boxing fan, are you? I'm going to let you go find another boxer or MMA fighter that had an IV. You tell me if they always are like De la Hoya.
                    Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
                    4. so now different fighters will respond differently to getting an iv treatment? but on the pac shoulder injury, you claim it was fake because manny didnt go thru the same step as other athletes that had the same injury! hahahahahahah
                    L

                    Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                    Andre Berto:
                    "Andre Berto, for example, went through seven months of tough rehab before being cleared to engage in light sparring after suffering an injury similar to Pacquiao’s in August of 2013. Berto, by the way, was treated by the same doctor who had attended to Pacquiao’s injury, Dr. Neal ElAttrache."
                    http://boxingbuzz.sportsblog.com/pos...-recovery.html

                    Berto Rehabilitation time: 7 months

                    Pacquaio rehabilitation time: ??? (self-rehab...3 months the most)
                    i cant even make this up.

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                    • Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
                      4. yeah, oscar needed iv, the same thing floyd needed, oscar was a dead man walking as you put it, but how come floyd wasnt a dead man walking? they both needed iv because of dehydration right?

                      Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                      LMAO. Do you know anything about the De La Hoya/Pac fight? You aren't a boxing fan, are you? I'm going to let you go find another boxer or MMA fighter that had an IV. You tell me if they always are like De la Hoya.
                      Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
                      4. so now different fighters will respond differently to getting an iv treatment? but on the pac shoulder injury, you claim it was fake because manny didnt go thru the same step as other athletes that had the same injury! hahahahahahah
                      L

                      Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                      Andre Berto:
                      "Andre Berto, for example, went through seven months of tough rehab before being cleared to engage in light sparring after suffering an injury similar to Pacquiao’s in August of 2013. Berto, by the way, was treated by the same doctor who had attended to Pacquiao’s injury, Dr. Neal ElAttrache."
                      http://boxingbuzz.sportsblog.com/pos...-recovery.html

                      Berto Rehabilitation time: 7 months

                      Pacquaio rehabilitation time: ??? (self-rehab...3 months the most)
                      i cant even make this up.

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