Max Kellerman Blast Mayweather on First Take Pac will fight Crawford

[WesternChamp]

TravestyNY, thinks every human have exactly the same injuries, he thinks everyone has exactly the same healing factor, he thinks everyone needs to have a personal therapist in every surgery a human being under goes to. Such ludicrous thoughts only reserved for bordering lunatics and mad men. He must be achieving ultimate transformation as we speak..SMH

only when it comes to pac... notice how he quickly change his stance when asked why didnt floyd looked like oscar when they both got treated with the same IV.

[travestyny]

floyd does not have to look like oscar?? well, then pac doesnt need to stay on the side line for as long as kobe did, or kevin love, or andre berto then LMAO!!!!! so you just admit your whole thread on pac's shoulder injury is void! LOL!!

1. What does Oscar De La Hoya have to do with USADA and Floyd?
Nothing. USADA didn't work this fight. De La Hoya's specific condition was never revealed to be compared to Floyd's.

2. What does Kobe Bryant and Andre Berto have to do with Pacquiao?

• All three had full thickness rotator cuff surgery
  
• All three were operated on by Dr. Neal ElAttrache.
  
• All three were to report to Dr. Neal ElAttrache for rehab.

Bryant: The Lakers’ star will go through tedious amounts of rehabilitation after having a two-hour surgical procedure Wednesday to repair a torn rotator cuff in his right shoulder.

http://www.dailynews.com/20150128/lakers-star-kobe-bryant-out-for-season-after-shoulder-surgery

Berto: "Andre Berto, for example, went through seven months of tough rehab"

http://boxingbuzz.sportsblog.com/posts/3035790/critics-cry----fake----at-manny-pacquiao---s----miraculous----recovery.html

Pacquiao: "I never did rehab."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2552911-manny-pacquiao-says-god-salt-water-fixed-his-injured-shoulder

Bob Arum(Pacquiao's promoter): “When you have an operation like that you’ve got to get into rehab. You’ve got to get the doctor to look at it and to guide you as to the kind of rehab that you’ve got to do,” Arum said.

http://www.thenational.ae/sport/other/bob-arum-hits-out-at-unprofessional-manny-pacquiao-over-missing-rehab-for-injury

Justin Fortune (Pac's S&C Coach): As long as he does the rehab, which is the most important part...does the rehab properly, then he'll be back to where he was.
https://********/gqMXUCkkgbs?t=4m53s

Freddie Roach(Pacquaio's coach): Roach specifically told him that if Pacquiao doesn’t rehab, there won’t be any more boxing.

http://thaboxingvoice.com/roach-pacquiao-surgery-was-legitimate/49925?var=no

hahahahahaa. So his boxing coach, his strength and conditioning coach, and his promoter agree with me.

After what I did to you, I'm surprised you came back. You want more? I'm available to keep embarrassing you. Let me know.

Just don't take one day to get back to me like when I destroyed you last time. And don't lie and say you weren't here, because you were posting in other threads. You just realized you got owned and you only decided to pop up again because you saw me clowning you to your butt buddy, Spoon.

Guess what? I'm here to keep clowing you if you need. Let me know, stepson.

[WesternChamp]

1. What does Oscar De La Hoya have to do with USADA and Floyd?
Nothing. USADA didn't work this fight. De La Hoya's specific condition was never revealed to be compared to Floyd's.

2. What does Kobe Bryant and Andre Berto have to do with Pacquiao?

• All three had full thickness rotator cuff surgery
  
• All three were operated on by Dr. Neal ElAttrache.
  
• All three were to report to Dr. Neal ElAttrache for rehab.

Bryant: The Lakers’ star will go through tedious amounts of rehabilitation after having a two-hour surgical procedure Wednesday to repair a torn rotator cuff in his right shoulder.

http://www.dailynews.com/20150128/lakers-star-kobe-bryant-out-for-season-after-shoulder-surgery

Berto: "Andre Berto, for example, went through seven months of tough rehab"

http://boxingbuzz.sportsblog.com/posts/3035790/critics-cry----fake----at-manny-pacquiao---s----miraculous----recovery.html

Pacquiao: "I never did rehab."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2552911-manny-pacquiao-says-god-salt-water-fixed-his-injured-shoulder

Bob Arum(Pacquiao's promoter): “When you have an operation like that you’ve got to get into rehab. You’ve got to get the doctor to look at it and to guide you as to the kind of rehab that you’ve got to do,” Arum said.

http://www.thenational.ae/sport/other/bob-arum-hits-out-at-unprofessional-manny-pacquiao-over-missing-rehab-for-injury

Justin Fortune (Pac's S&C Coach): As long as he does the rehab, which is the most important part...does the rehab properly, then he'll be back to where he was.
https://********/gqMXUCkkgbs?t=4m53s

Freddie Roach(Pacquaio's coach): Roach specifically told him that if Pacquiao doesn’t rehab, there won’t be any more boxing.

http://thaboxingvoice.com/roach-pacquiao-surgery-was-legitimate/49925?var=no

hahahahahaa. So his boxing coach, his strength and conditioning coach, and his promoter agree with me.

After what I did to you, I'm surprised you came back. You want more? I'm available to keep embarrassing you. Let me know.

Just don't take one day to get back to me like when I destroyed you last time. And don't lie and say you weren't here, because you were posting in other threads. You just realized you got owned and you only decided to pop up again because you saw me clowning you to your butt buddy, Spoon.

Guess what? I'm here to keep clowing you if you need. Let me know, stepson.

the recycle boy is back for more! i knew he wasnt sleeping well over this lmao!!!

you can keep digging and trying to find something to point out but the fact remain the same.

1. both got treated with IV, but one was a walking dead man in your own words while the other looks perfectly healthy.

2. bring up other ahtletes with similar injury as pac to compare that they were out on the side line longer than manny.

3. when asked why wasnt floyd a walking dead man like oscar, change stance and said not all fighters will respond the same.

L

[WesternChamp]

4. yeah, oscar needed iv, the same thing floyd needed, oscar was a dead man walking as you put it, but how come floyd wasnt a dead man walking? they both needed iv because of dehydration right?

LMAO. Do you know anything about the De La Hoya/Pac fight? You aren't a boxing fan, are you? I'm going to let you go find another boxer or MMA fighter that had an IV. You tell me if they always are like De la Hoya.

4. so now different fighters will respond differently to getting an iv treatment? but on the pac shoulder injury, you claim it was fake because manny didnt go thru the same step as other athletes that had the same injury! hahahahahahah
L

So are you saying that Kobe is unable to shoot with his left arm? Do you think he wouldn't have been on the court shooting and dribbling with his left. This is KOBE BRYANT who is a fierce competitor. So he holds back, and Manny goes balls to the wall. Nah, I doubt that. It's disrespectful to the black mamba.

Kobe had full thickness rotator cuff surgery -- First shoots 7 months after surgery.

[IMG]http://i62.***********.com/albums/h95/travestyny/Screen%20Shot%202016-04-18%20at%209.09.20%20PM.png[/IMG]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2553361-kobe-bryant-injury-updates-on-lakers-stars-recovery-from-shoulder-surgery

Pacquiao has "full thickness rotator cuff surgery -- Playing basketball at 3 months


Dr. Neal ElAttrache (yes, the surgeon who perforemd the surgery on Pac) talks about how bad contact basketball is for your rotator cuff.
Swimming and playing basketball can damage the rotator cuff.
@:45



Guess who returned to full contact basketball in under 6 months. LMAO


Kobe first shoots in 7 months. Pacquaio back playing contact basketball in under 6 months!

lololololol

[WesternChamp]

4. yeah, oscar needed iv, the same thing floyd needed, oscar was a dead man walking as you put it, but how come floyd wasnt a dead man walking? they both needed iv because of dehydration right?

LMAO. Do you know anything about the De La Hoya/Pac fight? You aren't a boxing fan, are you? I'm going to let you go find another boxer or MMA fighter that had an IV. You tell me if they always are like De la Hoya.

4. so now different fighters will respond differently to getting an iv treatment? but on the pac shoulder injury, you claim it was fake because manny didnt go thru the same step as other athletes that had the same injury! hahahahahahah
L

Andre Berto:
"Andre Berto, for example, went through seven months of tough rehab before being cleared to engage in light sparring after suffering an injury similar to Pacquiao’s in August of 2013. Berto, by the way, was treated by the same doctor who had attended to Pacquiao’s injury, Dr. Neal ElAttrache."

http://boxingbuzz.sportsblog.com/posts/3035790/critics-cry----fake----at-manny-pacquiao---s----miraculous----recovery.html

Berto Rehabilitation time: 7 months

Pacquaio rehabilitation time: ??? (self-rehab...3 months the most)

i cant even make this up.

[WesternChamp]

1. What does Oscar De La Hoya have to do with USADA and Floyd?
Nothing. USADA didn't work this fight. De La Hoya's specific condition was never revealed to be compared to Floyd's.

you see what i mean, now the recycle boy is trying to pick on the little things to try and make his argument more valid but when he was using it as a comparison, it didnt matter what "specify" condition it was. LMAO!

2. Symptoms of chronic dehydration will begin to appear when the body loses as little as two to three percent of total body water.
http://www.waterbenefitshealth.com/s...hydration.html

4. Show me where any fighter has ever mentioned dehydration to a commission. Did De La Hoya mention it when he was a dead man walking? Did Chad Dawson mention it when people claimed he was drained vs. Ward? Had NSAC EVER put a halt to a match because of dehydration or paid any attention to dehydration what so ever? YOU GOT OWNED.

[WesternChamp]

next step for recycle boy is to pick on something that has nothing to do with the topic at hand..

example:

im gonna misspell a word on purpose, and watch recycle boy comes back in to quote it and say i cant spell. then he's gonna try and start a whole new debake base on that to avoid the L he took. LOL!!!

i cant even make this chit up!

[soul_survivor]

Western champ kicking some serious homeboy ass on here.

But let's get back to the topic at hand fellas.

Can someone explain how Max is wrong?

[big_james10]

Max says:

What floyd was, is the opposite of what the fight game wants from him,

He is exploiting the fans and the networks by not fighting the fight they want to see and thus not taking all this unnecessary punishment and waiting just the right time, to fight just the right guy, and when that guy means maximum reward, minimum risk.

In short:

Floyd takes the path of less resistance. Low risk high reward blueprint.

Floyd is a bad precedence to boxers now.

while on the other hand, Pac takes all challenges.

If I was a manager of Pacquiao, I'll say don't take that fight, but as a boxing fan, I love the fact that Pacquiao takes on challenges, Terence Crawford is the biggest, baddest challenge he can take on right now, and given Pacquiao character and his nature and his track record, I think he's gonna take him.

Max Kellerman is full of ****. Floyd Mayweather is retired, yet Kellerman talks as if he is still an active fighter. Also, I would like Kellerman to explain which risks or fights Mayweather has avoided and which risks Pacquaio has taken because I have no clue what he is talking about. Pacquaio hasn't indicated a willingness to fight the middleweight, Gennady Golovkin. Pacquaio has indicated that he is willing to fight Canelo Alvarez at any weight. He hasn't stated that he is willing or wants to fight anyone. He always says it is up to Bob Arum who he fights. Also, Freddie Roach disagreed with Kellerman about Crawford. Yesterday, Roach described Crawford as a young Floyd Mayweather, said Pac would not be ready to fight Crawford until Pac fights at least two more times and that he will advise Pacquaio not to fight Crawford.


So, will somebody please explain to me WTF is Kellerman talking about?

[big_james10]

If it's so easy why doesn't every top boxer do it? Because you need to win every single one of those "high reward low risk fights". Something 99% of boxers can't do. You also need to get into a position of power in order to start picking fights. Floyd did that at the start of his career. He wanted to fight everyone. Why didn't others fight him? Because he was a high risk, low reward fighter.

Every time one of Floyd's critics say something about him, they only refer to his career after he fought Oscar De La Hoya. They pretend like his career began in 2007 at 147 pounds and he was 23 years old and in his prime at the time. That is the only way they can justify criticizing him for anything.

Today, they still talk about him as if he is an active 23 year-old fighter instead of a retired 39 year-old.