Max Kellerman Blast Mayweather on First Take Pac will fight Crawford

[soul_survivor]

If we can get back to the point at hand, what boxing needs is a central governing body. MMA in the US has UFC, boxing on a global scale needs one too. We can't have 4-6 world "champions" per division, which allows for so called champions to fight mediocre challengers and avoid the best available challenge.

[WesternChamp]

Talk to your boy, West. He is the one that had a full meltdown and started bringing up all types of **** here.

I left his head on a stake here so that no one else would make the same mistake.

Any word on when you're going to make that "even more accurate poll?" I been waiting a long time. Can't wait.


Cheers!

still cant keep my name out cho mouth after i embarssed you. im gonna go and re-bump those post just so you can see it again. LOL!

[WesternChamp]

Let me make this crystal clear before you hurt yourself anymore.

1. The reason that Mayweather did not have to look like Oscar De La Hoya to receive the IV is because OSCAR DE LA HOYA'S CONDITION IS IN NO WAY A STANDARD FOR RECEIVING AN IV, IDIOT. In fact, USADA had nothing to do with De La Hoya. Why would Mayweather have been required to look like De La Hoya?

2. The reason that other athletes were brought up in relation to Pacquaio is because those other athletes recoveries ARE GUIDED BY MEDICAL RESEARCH AND THE SURGEONS THAT PERFORMED THE SURGERY AND GUIDE THE REHABILITATION.

So let's see:

Oscar De La Hoya.....nope, nothing to do with USADA, WADA, or Floyd.

Kobe Bryant and Andre Berto -- Who performed surgery on their full-thickness rotator cuff surgeries and guided their rehabilitation????? Dr. Neil ElAttrache.

How does this relate to Pacquaio? Who performed his surgery (but was not allowed to guide his rehabilitation) Dr. Neil ElAttrache.

Kobe and Berto rehabbed the right way. Pacquaio skipped rehab and went swimming when it is prohibited according to 11 medical research papers I've found on swimming after this specific surgery, and also SWIMMING AND BASKETBALL are warned against in a video by Dr. ElAttrache himself!!!!




Feel ****** now? You should, but you're too ****** to feel ******. It's not even funny to me at this point. I pity you.

floyd does not have to look like oscar?? well, then pac doesnt need to stay on the side line for as long as kobe did, or kevin love, or andre berto then LMAO!!!!! so you just admit your whole thread on pac's shoulder injury is void! LOL!!

[WesternChamp]

4. yeah, oscar needed iv, the same thing floyd needed, oscar was a dead man walking as you put it, but how come floyd wasnt a dead man walking? they both needed iv because of dehydration right?

LMAO. Do you know anything about the De La Hoya/Pac fight? You aren't a boxing fan, are you? I'm going to let you go find another boxer or MMA fighter that had an IV. You tell me if they always are like De la Hoya.

4. so now different fighters will respond differently to getting an iv treatment? but on the pac shoulder injury, you claim it was fake because manny didnt go thru the same step as other athletes that had the same injury! hahahahahahah
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So are you saying that Kobe is unable to shoot with his left arm? Do you think he wouldn't have been on the court shooting and dribbling with his left. This is KOBE BRYANT who is a fierce competitor. So he holds back, and Manny goes balls to the wall. Nah, I doubt that. It's disrespectful to the black mamba.

Kobe had full thickness rotator cuff surgery -- First shoots 7 months after surgery.

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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...oulder-surgery

Pacquiao has "full thickness rotator cuff surgery -- Playing basketball at 3 months


Dr. Neal ElAttrache (yes, the surgeon who perforemd the surgery on Pac) talks about how bad contact basketball is for your rotator cuff.
Swimming and playing basketball can damage the rotator cuff.
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Guess who returned to full contact basketball in under 6 months. LMAO


Kobe first shoots in 7 months. Pacquaio back playing contact basketball in under 6 months!

lololololol

[WesternChamp]

What are you even trying to argue? That anyone who takes an IV should be like Oscar De La Hoya? What was his medical diagnosis?

We know what Pacquaio claimed to have. Tell me now, what did Oscar claim to have?


I'll wait.

so everyone who has a shoulder injury should remain on the side line for as long as kobe, kevin love, andre berto did right? LOL!!

[WesternChamp]

I don't know what he did. I never claimed that. All I asked was for people to look at the evidence I posted and draw a conclusion. That's all. From all of the evidence, doesn't this seem odd to you? How can he claim that swimming was his primary rehabilitation method in the early stages of rehab when every single rehabilitation guideline prohibits swimming? How is he playing basketball at 3 months when Kobe first took a shot at 7 months after having the same surgery? It doesn't add up. Something is off here, and that's all I'm saying. It doesn't appear to have been a full thickness tear.

more comparison but when i asked why wasnt floyd a dead man walking like oscar, you reply by saying not all fighters will respond the same LOL.

[BillyBoxing]

He moved from 106 to 112 by 20.

And we have to take into account he was dead at the weight of 112 by that point and lost his title on the scales, before being knocked out by someone clearly not on his level. Credit to him taking the fight to put food on the table but he was really in no condition to fight, so he moved up two divisions.

106-130 is a much bigger difference than 122-130 at age 20, that's an example of what i mean by the weight difference being greatly exaggerated. Plus when they fought Manny had plenty of experience at 147 so it's not the same as Floyd fighting Golovkin at 160, another reason the weight difference is exaggerated.

Floyd doesn't have to fight Golovkin, Agreed.

But Sketchel didn't have to fight Johnson, Duran didn't have to fight Hagler.

And, hell, we are talking about Marvelous and Johnson, not GGG.


To Floyd's credit, he did a brave move up once facing Oscar who still had pop and was bigger/taller.

But Oscar wasn't prime and I think himself started too at 130 if I remeber well.

[WesternChamp]

4. yeah, oscar needed iv, the same thing floyd needed, oscar was a dead man walking as you put it, but how come floyd wasnt a dead man walking? they both needed iv because of dehydration right?

LMAO. Do you know anything about the De La Hoya/Pac fight? You aren't a boxing fan, are you? I'm going to let you go find another boxer or MMA fighter that had an IV. You tell me if they always are like De la Hoya.

4. so now different fighters will respond differently to getting an iv treatment? but on the pac shoulder injury, you claim it was fake because manny didnt go thru the same step as other athletes that had the same injury! hahahahahahah
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Andre Berto:
"Andre Berto, for example, went through seven months of tough rehab before being cleared to engage in light sparring after suffering an injury similar to Pacquiao’s in August of 2013. Berto, by the way, was treated by the same doctor who had attended to Pacquiao’s injury, Dr. Neal ElAttrache."
http://boxingbuzz.sportsblog.com/pos...-recovery.html

Berto Rehabilitation time: 7 months

Pacquaio rehabilitation time: ??? (self-rehab...3 months the most)

i cant even make this up.

[Spoon23]

i cant even make this up.

TravestyNY, thinks every human have exactly the same injuries, he thinks everyone has exactly the same healing factor, he thinks everyone needs to have a personal therapist in every surgery a human being under goes to. Such ludicrous thoughts only reserved for bordering lunatics and mad men. He must be achieving ultimate transformation as we speak..SMH

[Spoon23]

If we can get back to the point at hand, what boxing needs is a central governing body. MMA in the US has UFC, boxing on a global scale needs one too. We can't have 4-6 world "champions" per division, which allows for so called champions to fight mediocre challengers and avoid the best available challenge.

Very much what you said is the way of saving boxing. Agreed.