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  • #41
    Originally posted by Mr. Luthor View Post
    How exactly could Hearn offer Brook a Middleweight title fight if K2 and Golovkin had not already agreed to Brook being a potential opponent? Key words, "They accepted Brook as a replacement".

    Now tell us what 154 or 168 boxers were contacted before 147 lb Brook was accepted as a replacement for Eubank Jr.
    So what you are saying is that Hearn couldn't have offered Golovkin a fight with Kell Brook unless Golovkin had already accepted it before it was offered to him by Hearn?

    I understand where you are coming from now ... you need to twist the facts to make Golovkin look bad, etc, but don't go full ****** on us!

    And this fight will be an Eddie Hearn promotion, in the UK. Hearn makes the fights on his shows, not Loeffler. If you think it's such a bad match you should be slagging off Hearn, not Golovkin.
    Last edited by kafkod; 07-22-2016, 11:25 AM.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by GGG Gloveking View Post
      I do hope you see the seemingly contradictory statements you're making. You started off saying GGGs team made the offer to Brook. Now you're conceding that it was Hearn, not Loeffler, that made the offer to Brook. Since Hearn is Eubank's promoter, you could accurately say it was 'Eubank's team' that made the offer to Brook. Further, its not just 'GGGs terms' that Brook agreed to. They were the terms agreed upon by K2 and Matchroom. Terms that Eubank did not want to agree to
      Who accepted whom as a challenger for their titles? Which boxer accepted the terms of the other boxer? Is it not true that Brook's name simply replaced Eubank Jr? Naturally Hearn came to his fighter Brook with the Golovkin fight but Brook as an opponent had to agreed upon with K2 first because it is Golovkin's titles on the line and he is the bigger name.

      We as boxing fans know that Hearn didn't just give Brook this fight and then went back to K2 and told them that Welterweight Brook would be replacing Eubank Jr and the paperwork was already signed. C'mon now.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by kafkod View Post
        So what you are saying is that Hearn couldn't have offered Golovkin a fight with Kell Brook unless Golovkin had already accepted it before it was offered to him by Hearn?

        I understand where you are coming from now ... you need to twist the facts to make Golovkin look bad, etc, but don't go full ****** on us!

        And this fight will be an Eddie Hearn promotion, in the UK. Hearn makes the fights on his shows, not Loeffler. If you think it's such a bad match you should be slagging off Hearn, not Golovkin.
        Are you suggesting that Brook is the A-side to Golovkin? Are you suggesting that Hearn offered Kell Brook a Middleweight title fight with Golovkin without getting permission from K2 to make that offer?

        A promoters job is to make fights but there is no way that Golovkin won't take criticism for this especially when he is on record saying....“[Canelo-Khan] is not good for boxing. Amir Khan, he’s not bad ….[Canelo] will knock the hell out of him,” Golovkin said. “This is true …… There’s a big difference in size.."

        Can't have it both ways.

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        • #44
          Now maybe one of you can tell the rest of us what 154 or 168 boxers were contacted and made offers before the fight was offered to 147 lb Brook.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Mr. Luthor View Post
            Are you suggesting that Brook is the A-side to Golovkin? Are you suggesting that Hearn offered Kell Brook a Middleweight title fight with Golovkin without getting permission from K2 to make that offer?

            A promoters job is to make fights but there is no way that Golovkin won't take criticism for this especially when he is on record saying....“[Canelo-Khan] is not good for boxing. Amir Khan, he’s not bad ….[Canelo] will knock the hell out of him,” Golovkin said. “This is true …… There’s a big difference in size.."

            Can't have it both ways.
            Hearn is Brook's promoter. Brook told him he would fight GGG on the same terms Eubank was getting and when Eubank didn't sign the contract Hearn offered the fight to Kell instead.

            Whether he asked K2 if they would accept Brook before or after he offered the fight to Kell is irrelevant. It was Brook's team who made this fight, not Golovkin's.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by kafkod View Post
              Hearn is Brook's promoter. Brook told him he would fight GGG on the same terms Eubank was getting and when Eubank didn't sign the contract Hearn offered the fight to Kell instead.

              Whether he asked K2 if they would accept Brook before or after he offered the fight to Kell is irrelevant. It was Brook's team who made this fight, not Golovkin's.
              The most ******ed sentence you'll see today.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                Hearn is Brook's promoter. Brook told him he would fight GGG on the same terms Eubank was getting and when Eubank didn't sign the contract Hearn offered the fight to Kell instead.

                Whether he asked K2 if they would accept Brook before or after he offered the fight to Kell is irrelevant. It was Brook's team who made this fight, not Golovkin's.
                They had to accept it? If Crawford calls out Golovkin on Saturday does Golovkin get to bring him up 3 divisions?

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Mr. Luthor View Post
                  Who accepted whom as a challenger for their titles? Which boxer accepted the terms of the other boxer? Is it not true that Brook's name simply replaced Eubank Jr? Naturally Hearn came to his fighter Brook with the Golovkin fight but Brook as an opponent had to agreed upon with K2 first because it is Golovkin's titles on the line and he is the bigger name.

                  We as boxing fans know that Hearn didn't just give Brook this fight and then went back to K2 and told them that Welterweight Brook would be replacing Eubank Jr and the paperwork was already signed. C'mon now.
                  Is it not true that Brook's name simply replaced Eubank Jr?...This here is essentially what happened in my opinion. I think Hearn realized the pain in the azz that dealing with Eubank would be and made the offer to Brook. It's possible that Hearn ran the offer by Loeffler before actually sending it to Brook. Either way, I see it as Hearn making the move and Loeffler agreeing to it. I dont think Loeffler went to Hearn and asked to fight Brook as you are making it seem.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Mr. Luthor View Post
                    Even if there were no attractive 160 pound opponents, Golovkin's team could have attempted to find an opponent at 154 or 168 instead of immediately making an offer to a Welterweight. That is the problem a lot boxing fans are having. Brook's team did not make Golovkin the offer, Golovkin's team brought this fight to Brook. There's a difference. That being said, now that the fight has been agreed upon, the WBA issue is just a formality.
                    That's not true in the slightest. It was Eddie Hearn who recommended Brook to K2 after his other client, Eubank chickened out at the last minute. Brook agreed right away to the same exact contract Hearn was presenting to Eubank. Since the site, purse and PPV were agreed to in principle between both Matchroom and K2, Its easy to see why Hearn would offer Brook. Brook is high profile in the UK, and the fact that tickets sold in 11 minutes is testament to the popularity of both boxers.
                    As for your other comment about 154-168, which high profile fighter was available for Sept?? You obviously must know that PBC/ Showtime fighters don't fight on HBO, G.Ramirez injures his hand and is not ready til Nov/ Dec. So which other high profile was available? Explain

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by CaneloMaidana View Post
                      They had to accept it? If Crawford calls out Golovkin on Saturday does Golovkin get to bring him up 3 divisions?
                      Originally posted by Paulie Walnuts View Post
                      The most ******ed sentence you'll see today.
                      If I was able to write the most ******ed sentence in a thread infested by hate troll maggots like you two, that would be quite an achievement!

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