Did Floyd Mayweather use PED's? (simple answer for an OG member please)

[Kigali]

I asked a simple question. Who helped Lance out? For Mayweather to have cheated, do you understand that he would have to buy out not only USADA but also WADA? If he had failed any test, for any reason, the result would have been sent to WADA, as I've told you a million times. The labs that are used are not USADA labs. That doesn't exist. They are independent labs that are WADA certified. They report directly to WADA.



Oh really? What did Floyd get caught with? Where is his failed test? You are making **** up according to your own scenario.

1. He wasn't caught with the IV. This is easily verified since he was contacted about the test before the IV, shadowed by USADA, and took the IV much later in the day.
2. Mayweather was never caught with PED's.
3. If there were a positive test, it would have been sent to WADA immediately.
4. Mayweather passed 17 other tests and there was no IV, including the one on the day of the fight.
5. Speculating about microdosing isn't going to help you when if USADA was helping him, there would not give a test until he is in the clear instead of creating a paper trail that would get them investigated by WADA. It doesn't make sense.


So your whole argument is that because he never took an IV before, he could not have needed one now? I think you know that's laughable. WADA itself said that there are circumstances where an IV would be preferred to drinking water. We've gone over this before so you should be well aware of this. You keep repeating the same thing over and over, but you know all of this information already. You don't have his medical records, do you? If so, I'd like to see them. Thanks.



Right. So everyone that uses an IV and delays is guilty of using PED's. Mayweather also delayed during the Mosley fight. Perhaps he could have used an IV, perhaps not, but didn't have one. He went on to pass all the tests, as per usual.

WADA has specific rules on collecting urine. Why do you think there is a system regarding partial urine samples. Obviously there are circumstances where athletes can't piss enough, right? Why would an athlete not be able to piss enough? Could dehydration be a reason? Can an IV help with rehydration?

The above questions should help you understand.

You just ruined that guy.

[travestyny]

Yawwwn. Nothing went over anyone's head. What you are saying doesn't make sense.

He needs the TUE just in case it comes back positive? Positive for what? If it comes back positive for PED's, he's guilty even with the TUE.

If you mean to cover up it being postive for traces of using the IV, he could have easily microdosed, as you claim he did, and made sure it was out of his system well before taking the test, and USADA could have made sure of that.

And once again, just because you can physically drink doesn't mean that the IV isn't more appropriate to do. USADA has documents that explain that and I showed it to you already.

See, it did go over your head.

If Floyd/USADA hid the fact that Floyd used an IV then if the labs come back that he used an IV then he would be in trouble. I'm not talking about PEDs. I'm talking about Floyd using an IV to mask the PEDs. IVs are contained in plastic bags. They can leave a trace of the plastic when using the IV. If the lab finds that trace, Floyd is in trouble .....

So that is why they came up with the RETRO TUE in which you said that they could have hid from everyone.

Please use your reading skills. It's right there in what you quoted from me. Did you not see that???? It was the day of the weigh-in. Do you think he is not expecting to be tested?

Now tell me, if they were helping him out, why would they purposely want to create a papertrail that could get them in trouble instead of warning him about when to taper off his microdosing? All of the paperwork that is filed for the TUE is still sitting there and WADA could check all that **** out.


IT MAKES NO SENSE!

And if you're trying to say they are helping him only to cover up the IV use, it also makes no sense because even Hauser agrees that USADA was on the scene way before the IV!!!

[ADP02]

Please use your reading skills. It's right there in what you quoted from me. Did you not see that???? It was the day of the weigh-in. Do you think he is not expecting to be tested?

Now tell me, if they were helping him out, why would they purposely want to create a papertrail that could get them in trouble instead of warning him about when to taper off his microdosing? All of the paperwork that is filed for the TUE is still sitting there and WADA could check all that **** out.


IT MAKES NO SENSE!

And if you're trying to say they are helping him only to cover up the IV use, it also makes no sense because even Hauser agrees that USADA was on the scene way before the IV!!!

I told you why the paper trail. Without it, Floyd was cooked!!!

I already told you. Lance Armstrong is but one example of it but because you know his name I use it. Lance used to also get notices ahead of time that the DCO was coming. Sometimes the notice came too late or didn't come. So Lance delayed the testing one way or another and sometimes they had to get a RETRO Prescription in which was illegal. Paper trail or not, high tech or not, it had to be done or else Lance would be cooked!

Floyd delayed as much as he can. That was probably enough to avoid the positive test. Who knows for sure but Floyd made sure to cross the T in TUEs and dot the I in IVs Floyd took no chances.

Lance Armstrong is a good example ....

but now we have Floyd:
- who has his own IV scandal.
- Low T/E results,
- is able to dictate when testing starts and ends.
- Is able to delay the testing up to 6 hours with no problem.
- Can get a RETRO TUE 3 weeks after the fight for something he didn't even need.
- Employs (pays) USADA to test Floyd. What can go wrong?
- USADA protected Floyd while throwing Manny under the bus.
- USADA wants athletes to send in 30 days in advance because TUEs can take up to 28 days to process. Floyd requests RETRO TUE. USADA approves next day. You think there was a thorough review?


Lance must be jealous of Floyd. Lance had to hide it all. Floyd was allowed to do it out in the open!

If not for Manny's team, we would more than likely never know about the TUE because they didn't even have to let us know. Its probably not the first IV / TUE rodeo for Floyd. Its only the first that we know of.





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[Jubei]

No he just took the 0.7 liter IV in his own medical lab to.. errr. because he... oh nevermind.

[travestyny]

I told you why the paper trail. Without it, Floyd was cooked!!!

I already told you. Lance Armstrong is but one example of it but because you know his name I use it. Lance used to also get notices ahead of time that the DCO was coming. Sometimes the notice came too late or didn't come. So Lance delayed the testing one way or another and sometimes they had to get a RETRO Prescription in which was illegal. Paper trail or not, high tech or not, it had to be done or else Lance would be cooked!

Floyd delayed as much as he can. That was probably enough to avoid the positive test. Who knows for sure but Floyd made sure to cross the T in TUEs and dot the I in IVs Floyd took no chances.

Lance Armstrong is a good example ....

The paper trail is ******, plain and simple. Who wants to document wrongdoing. Come on, man. Get off of it.

A whole lot of speculation in that mumbo jumbo. Let's see. Lance had to sneak an IV bag in. Floyd gave a partial sample before the IV and then followed the proper WADA protocol to be approved for the IV. I'm failing to see the similarity.

but now we have Floyd:
- who has his own IV scandal.

This is now only a scandal to pacroaches. I wonder why.

- Low T/E results,

according to whom? I can find information that shows these results were not abnormal, and you know I can. So why are you still typing this?

- is able to dictate when testing starts and ends.

Arum/Pac with VADA?

- Is able to delay the testing up to 6 hours with no problem.

Any athlete since it's allowed according to the WADA standards

- Can get a RETRO TUE 3 weeks after the fight for something he didn't even need.

Do you have proof this was against WADA's ISTUE? More speculation?

- Employs (pays) USADA to test Floyd. What can go wrong?

Wait...didn't Arum pay for VADA testing?

- USADA protected Floyd while throwing Manny under the bus.

Huh? What the hell are you talking about?

- USADA wants athletes to send in 30 days in advance because TUEs can take up to 28 days to process. Floyd requests RETRO TUE. USADA approves next day. You think there was a thorough review?

I suggest you go look up the ISTUE before you keep spouting about things you don't understand. There is a process that needs to be followed. It was followed.

If not for Manny's team, we would more than likely never know about the TUE because they didn't even have to let us know. Its probably not the first IV / TUE rodeo for Floyd. Its only the first that we know of.

So what you're saying is that Manny's team reviewed the ISTUE and got the fight contract tweeked to account for fixing things they didn't like? WELL GREAT. What the hell are you complaining about then??????????????????????????

[WesternChamp]

i believe so.. just take a look at this picture.. how does a guy get more ripped as he age?

[travestyny]

i believe so.. just take a look at this picture.. how does a guy get more ripped as he age?

Why do yall keep posting the same dumb picture?

The left side photo was from 2005? Here he is in 2007:


Yea, he definitely didn't have the same abs vs. Gatti, right?:


And his father is a fat slob:

[Zaroku]

This crap is meaningless at this point. So is slow motion, let it go... Let it go!!!

[Dean_Razorback]

floyd did every drug known to mankind

[WesternChamp]

Why do yall keep posting the same dumb picture?

The left side photo was from 2005? Here he is in 2007:


Yea, he definitely didn't have the same abs vs. Gatti, right?:


And his father is a fat slob:

this is the first time i've posted that picture.

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