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  • #41
    Originally posted by b0x
    Ward all day long. Especially after he beats Kovalev. That's icing on an ATG cake. GGG should be bending over backwards to get people in the ring if he wants to secure his legacy. Ward isn't demanding a catchweight for Kov is he?
    SOG isnt protected like GGG is by his promoter and HBO

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Son Of Fraud View Post
      Golovkin anyone saying otherwise doesn't know how boxing works or likely they're a black American, it's about how you do it it's not about how you cheat to beat someone your audience is there to be impressed.
      People will remember Ward for being boring and making constant excuses.

      GGG could continually get better.
      Funny because boxing greatness works by beating the better fighters than who you're being compared to. That you felt the need to make it about race discredits your whole post. And by the way, in case you can't tell, I'm white.

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      • #43
        Ward and Golovkin are different types of fighters that appeal to different types of fans who have different ideas of what makes a fighter great. This won't change unless something surprising happens (e.g., Kovalev beats Ward convincingly, or Canelo actually follows through on his promise to face Golovkin and beats him, or at least makes it competitive.)

        I'll add: I think Ward will dominate Kovalev in a UD, and Canelo will never agree to 160 against Golovkin, who would finish him easily.
        Last edited by Joe Beamish; 07-13-2016, 10:17 AM.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by b0x
          GGG's promoters are more interested in building a monster image for the casual fans. That's why they would rather continue the KO streak than fight someone that helps build a status as an ATG. Lara would have helped his case more than Brook lol.
          too bad people with common sense and who are real fans will look at the quality of opposition.

          Kov and chocolatito had long ko streaks, difference is they actually fight world rated opponents in their divisions so the straks were halted

          you cant fool educated fans, with ko streaks

          Lamar clark went 44-0...44 kos staright and is a foot note in boxing

          what GGG fanatics, HBO and k2 need to understand is his legacy will be judged by who he fought not by the belts he was handed or a ko streak

          majority of his victims were kayoed before he got to them anyway

          real fans know stuff like that...they care for facts, not illusions

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          • #45
            Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
            Funny because boxing greatness works by beating the better fighters than who you're being compared to. That you felt the need to make it about race discredits your whole post. And by the way, in case you can't tell, I'm white.
            that idiot brings up race in every post...I just look over him...he just wants attention

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            • #46
              I am a fan of Golovkin but the question is kind of silly. He hasn't fought anyone yet.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                Funny because boxing greatness works by beating the better fighters than who you're being compared to. That you felt the need to make it about race discredits your whole post. And by the way, in case you can't tell, I'm white.
                Oh look a Yankee doodle doo protecting his cowardly American fighter who can't even get on a plane and fight abroad
                Greatness is valued with how you win, its not valued by how many times you clinch someone or elbow/headbutt them into an unfair stoppage but this is the dude you defend lmao!

                You need to learn what boxing is because Ward has done little of it in his pinnacle fights.

                I'm white
                I'm American

                Sums it all up, no bias here whatsoever.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                  you know GGG's resume is horrible...if he was fighting Hopkins at 168, coming off a loss at 51...it would still be GGG's best win...SMDH

                  Kovalev has ward lined up, beat Pascal 2x who is a former 174 champion and been on the seen for a long time, and other titlists

                  Kov actually won ALL his belts in the ring....your hero has fought and won 1/3 belts he has...its pathetic

                  deal with the truth

                  your opinion means nothing in comparison to stone cold facts.........stay butthurt Can Man Fan
                  Lmfao beat Pascal who done what exactly?
                  Pascal lost every meaningful fight he's ever had but that's your claim to fame that beating Kovalev is suddenly a great achievement?

                  Two can play at that game, you Yanks and your bias I just can't wait for the moment Ward isn't allowed to unfairly clinch and cheat his way to a decision because he's done it in nearly all of his big fights like a pathetic coward denying the fans a real event.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Buckfever View Post
                    I am a fan of Golovkin but the question is kind of silly. He hasn't fought anyone yet.
                    He's destroyed a lot of top 10 contenders. Not via close judge's decisions, but by beating them down, or, with shocking frequency for such a proud sport -- making them quit on their feet. Virtually nobody at MW wants to fight him. People run from him. So he carries this mystique. I would LOVE to see him fight the best possible 160 guys out there, but it seems they're all too frightened. Furthermore, it's not a great weight class these days, obviously.

                    I just read how Lennox Lewis thinks Brook should NOT move up to face Golovkin. And I ask myself, why not? Isn't Golovkin terribly overrated? What's the big deal? Evidently a lot of boxers (including a lot of sparring partners that say he hits like a HW) think he's a beast.

                    We're all eager to put it to the test, but who's going to step up besides a ballsy welterweight? Not Canelo, Not Eubanks....nobody

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Son Of Fraud View Post
                      Oh look a Yankee doodle doo protecting his cowardly American fighter who can't even get on a plane and fight abroad
                      Greatness is valued with how you win, its not valued by how many times you clinch someone or elbow/headbutt them into an unfair stoppage but this is the dude you defend lmao!

                      You need to learn what boxing is because Ward has done little of it in his pinnacle fights.

                      I'm white
                      I'm American

                      Sums it all up, no bias here whatsoever.
                      Again this is very funny to me since I prefer GGG. The difference between you and I is that I'm objective,

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